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Romney a Lock - You Can Put it On the Board YESSSS!!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 5, 2012.

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  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    But the guy telling everyone to go to their parents did.

    In the broader context, this comes up because of the student loan issue (than you slow jam!). Mitt makes his feelings pretty clear on that -- why should the government lend kids money when their parents can? Paired with the Ryan plan to eliminate Pell grants, it does paint a certain picture.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    See, I'd love to get an MBA, and there are some great programs in Chicago(land). University of Chicago has a great entrepreneurship program, and Northwestern's marketing program is considered to be among the best. Loyola, DePaul, and I think even Kendall College (which is mainly a culinary school, and is right down the block), offer MBAs.

    But, I've only heard of a couple of examples of schools admitting someone without an undergrad degree into their MBA program. (George W. Bush's former "body person" was famously admitted into Harvard's program without a degree.)

    But, my understanding is that they study real world examples, and do try to learn from the successes -- and mistakes -- that established businesses have made.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Again, he was speaking to kids who were attending a private college, with a tuition of $28,000 annually. And, while he mentioned parents, it wasn't the totality of his message.

    And, I'm still unsure who would be a better place to turn to first.


    What issue? The rates on loans, the availability? The requirement that they be paid back?
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    The rate hike and the funding levels -- another spending cut favored by the GOP as an offset to keeping taxes on the rich as low as possible -- are both current political issues.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Oh for heavens' sake! It only paints a picture if you want it to paint a picture. He didn't say, "Hey, everybody out there who wants to start a business, go borrow from your parents!" Some are trying to make this into a "let them eat cake" mis-step and it just ain't flying.

    P.S. And Ryan's plan doesn't eliminate Pell grants. True, in some as yet unspecified way it tightens eligibility and it also doesn't increase their value over time. So, yeah, I guess that's the same as eliminating them.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Correct, it doesn't eliminate them. It eliminates some of them. A pretty large reduction IIRC. Again, denying opportunity.
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Well, seeing as how the reduction hasn't been specified ... and, yeah, the only way someone can go to school is via the Pell Grant ... but, sure, whatever blows your skirt up.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Not sure I said that. You seem particularly feisty today. But loan reductions, and a rate hike from 3.4 percent to 6.8 percent, are part of the GOP plan too. Since 96 percent of college graduates have loans and the average debt is $25,000, I would say this issue touches most people who go to college and their families.

    Romney, and Ryan, and the GOP in general, do not believe these programs are necessary, or at least not to the degree they are implemented, because people have other avenues like parents, family, friends, etc. who can take care of them. I think most people see the fallacy in that.
     
  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    If I were an academic, I would fall to my knees thrice daily and thank God and Claiborne Pell for creating a system of free money for college students sufficient to increase enrollments, increase tuitions and increase salaries. The Pell Grant is a perpetual motion machine of profitable unintended consequences whereby nearly everyone benefits.
     
  10. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    If you don't get why what Romney said was boneheaded, genuinely, you just don't get it, and you won't.

    Most here get it, though.
     
  11. Steve Jobs would never be able to start Apple the way he did with today's state and federal regulations. If you don't see that as a problem - then there's really no way to get through to you.

    Most people would understand that's a problem. It's OK if you don't.
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Which, specifically? And why?
     
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