Romney a Lock - You Can Put it On the Board YESSSS!!

Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L) · May 7, 2012

I'll agree with Michael but I'd suggest Romney hire a bunch of loudmouths to go into bars in swing states being obnoxious about supporting Obama. I'd ask them to be especially loud about their support for "The One" during sporting events while people are trying to listen to the play-by-play. If asked why they are supporting Obama - I'd have them reply because Obama is awesome and because I'm a Democrat and that anyone who votes against Obama is a racist.

And I'd have the loudmouth drunks drink Amstel Light (which almost by definition means they would also be lousy tippers).

That should sew it up for Romney.

Boom_70 · May 7, 2012

Let's just let the swing states vote and everyone else sit it out.

Uncle.Ruckus · May 7, 2012

I can't make a decision without pertinent rap lyrics. Can someone help out?

The Big Ragu · May 7, 2012

YankeeFan said:

"I'm running to pay down our debt in a way that’s balanced and responsible. After inheriting a $1 trillion deficit, I signed $2 trillion of spending cuts into law. And now I want to finish the job by streamlining government and cutting more waste, and reforming our tax code so that it is simpler and fairer, and asks the wealthiest Americans to pay a little bit more."

-- President Obama (Campaign Speech, Ohio State University, 05/05/12)

http://articles.latimes.com/print/2012/may/05/news/la-pn-transcript-obama-campaign-kickoff-20120505

Couple of points:

- Where did you cut $2 trillion?

- What's the deficit now?

- Have you streamlined government, cut waste, or reformed our tax code yet? If not, why would I expect you to accomplish it in a second term?
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He actually inherited a $1.413 trillion deficit in 2009 -- budget passed under Bush (The 2009 fiscal year began October 1, 2008, nearly four months before Obama took office.)

The problem is that debt has really taken off the last couple of years. $1.293 trillion deficit in 2010. $1.3 trillion deficit in 2011. $1.327 trillion deficit for 2012.

Our national debt rose $4.9 trillion during Bush's two terms. That was a near doubling of the national debt -- we put ourselves on a dangerous and unsustainable path.

But since then, our national debt has gone from $10.6 trillion on Bush's last day in office to $15.7 trillion and counting -- in a little more than three years. Any narrative other than that is a lie.

It's actually more of a function of Congress, than the president. The president sends BS budget requests to Capital Hill that have no chance of getting passed -- he can claim that he tried to raise taxes or propose spending cuts over the next decade, knowing it isn't going to happen. The House and Senate come up with their resolutions that they reconcile, and voila $1 trillion deficits every year since 2009.

YankeeFan · May 7, 2012

Uncle.Ruckus said:

I can't make a decision without pertinent rap lyrics. Can someone help out?
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Do you want something current, or from the late 90's?

Depending on the answer, I can suggest a member or two who can post some lyrics.

TigerVols · May 7, 2012

Apparently, Romney believes Obama should be tried for treason.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-stands-silent-as-supporter-charges-obama-with-treason-20120507,0,1043856.story

(Moderators, feel free to move this over to the political coward thread!)

Greenhorn · May 7, 2012

TigerVols said:

Apparently, Romney believes Obama should be tried for treason.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-stands-silent-as-supporter-charges-obama-with-treason-20120507,0,1043856.story

(Moderators, feel free to move this over to the political coward thread!)
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Well, President Obama is a member of the Democrat Party, which is all the evidence for some wingnuts.......

Ben_Hecht · May 7, 2012

The Big Ragu said:

YankeeFan said:

"I'm running to pay down our debt in a way thats balanced and responsible. After inheriting a $1 trillion deficit, I signed $2 trillion of spending cuts into law. And now I want to finish the job by streamlining government and cutting more waste, and reforming our tax code so that it is simpler and fairer, and asks the wealthiest Americans to pay a little bit more."

-- President Obama (Campaign Speech, Ohio State University, 05/05/12)

http://articles.latimes.com/print/2012/may/05/news/la-pn-transcript-obama-campaign-kickoff-20120505

Couple of points:

- Where did you cut $2 trillion?

- What's the deficit now?

- Have you streamlined government, cut waste, or reformed our tax code yet? If not, why would I expect you to accomplish it in a second term?
Click to expand...

He actually inherited a $1.413 trillion deficit in 2009 -- budget passed under Bush (The 2009 fiscal year began October 1, 2008, nearly four months before Obama took office.)

The problem is that debt has really taken off the last couple of years. $1.293 trillion deficit in 2010. $1.3 trillion deficit in 2011. $1.327 trillion deficit for 2012.

Our national debt rose $4.9 trillion during Bush's two terms. That was a near doubling of the national debt -- we put ourselves on a dangerous and unsustainable path.

But since then, our national debt has gone from $10.6 trillion on Bush's last day in office to $15.7 trillion and counting -- in a little more than three years. Any narrative other than that is a lie.

It's actually more of a function of Congress, than the president. The president sends BS budget requests to Capital Hill that have no chance of getting passed -- he can claim that he tried to raise taxes or propose spending cuts over the next decade, knowing it isn't going to happen. The House and Senate come up with their resolutions that they reconcile, and voila $1 trillion deficits every year since 2009.
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. . . without revenue increases, lots of luck . . .

The Ryan/GOP jokebook . . . the gift which keeps on taking, and taking, and taking.

The Big Ragu · May 7, 2012

Ben_Hecht said:

The Big Ragu said:

YankeeFan said:

"I'm running to pay down our debt in a way that’s balanced and responsible. After inheriting a $1 trillion deficit, I signed $2 trillion of spending cuts into law. And now I want to finish the job by streamlining government and cutting more waste, and reforming our tax code so that it is simpler and fairer, and asks the wealthiest Americans to pay a little bit more."

-- President Obama (Campaign Speech, Ohio State University, 05/05/12)

http://articles.latimes.com/print/2012/may/05/news/la-pn-transcript-obama-campaign-kickoff-20120505

Couple of points:

- Where did you cut $2 trillion?

- What's the deficit now?

- Have you streamlined government, cut waste, or reformed our tax code yet? If not, why would I expect you to accomplish it in a second term?
Click to expand...

He actually inherited a $1.413 trillion deficit in 2009 -- budget passed under Bush (The 2009 fiscal year began October 1, 2008, nearly four months before Obama took office.)

The problem is that debt has really taken off the last couple of years. $1.293 trillion deficit in 2010. $1.3 trillion deficit in 2011. $1.327 trillion deficit for 2012.

Our national debt rose $4.9 trillion during Bush's two terms. That was a near doubling of the national debt -- we put ourselves on a dangerous and unsustainable path.

But since then, our national debt has gone from $10.6 trillion on Bush's last day in office to $15.7 trillion and counting -- in a little more than three years. Any narrative other than that is a lie.

It's actually more of a function of Congress, than the president. The president sends BS budget requests to Capital Hill that have no chance of getting passed -- he can claim that he tried to raise taxes or propose spending cuts over the next decade, knowing it isn't going to happen. The House and Senate come up with their resolutions that they reconcile, and voila $1 trillion deficits every year since 2009.
Click to expand...

. . . without revenue increases, lots of luck . . .

The Ryan/GOP jokebook . . . the gift which keeps on taking, and taking, and taking.
Click to expand...

If we are going to spend $3.8 trillion worth, yup, without revenue increases, it ain't gonna happen.

Of course, a pretty good question is why does our Federal government need to spend $3.8 trillion -- and growing at a steep pace?

As recently as 2001, Federal spending was less than half of that.

YankeeFan · May 7, 2012

Here comes the money from the Left:

After months on the sidelines, major liberal donors including the financier George Soros are preparing to inject up to $100 million into independent groups to aid Democrats’ chances this fall. But instead of going head to head with the conservative “super PACs” and outside groups that have flooded the presidential and Congressional campaigns with negative advertising, the donors are focusing on grass-roots organizing, voter registration and Democratic turnout.

The departure from the conservatives’ approach, which helped Republicans wrest control of the House in 2010, partly reflects liberal donors’ objections to the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, which paved the way for super PACs and unbridled campaign spending.

But in interviews, donors and strategists involved in the effort said they also did not believe they could match advertising spending by leading conservative groups like American Crossroads and Americans for Prosperity, and instead wanted to exploit what they see as the Democrats’ advantage in grass-roots organizing.

“Super PACs are critically important,” said Rob Stein, the founder of the Democracy Alliance, a group of liberal donors who will convene near Miami this week to discuss where to steer their money this year. But the liberal groups, he said, believe that local efforts and outreach through social media “can have an enormous impact in battleground states in 2012.”

In a move likely to draw in other major donors, Mr. Soros will contribute $1 million each to America Votes, a group that coordinates political activity for left-leaning environmental, abortion rights and civil rights groups, and American Bridge 21st Century, a super PAC that focuses on election-oriented research. The donations will be Mr. Soros’s first major contributions of the 2012 election cycle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/us/politics/liberals-putting-super-pac-money-into-grass-roots.html?_r=1
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JRoyal · May 7, 2012

The Big Ragu said:

Ben_Hecht said:

The Big Ragu said:

YankeeFan said:

"I'm running to pay down our debt in a way that’s balanced and responsible. After inheriting a $1 trillion deficit, I signed $2 trillion of spending cuts into law. And now I want to finish the job by streamlining government and cutting more waste, and reforming our tax code so that it is simpler and fairer, and asks the wealthiest Americans to pay a little bit more."

-- President Obama (Campaign Speech, Ohio State University, 05/05/12)

http://articles.latimes.com/print/2012/may/05/news/la-pn-transcript-obama-campaign-kickoff-20120505

Couple of points:

- Where did you cut $2 trillion?

- What's the deficit now?

- Have you streamlined government, cut waste, or reformed our tax code yet? If not, why would I expect you to accomplish it in a second term?
Click to expand...

He actually inherited a $1.413 trillion deficit in 2009 -- budget passed under Bush (The 2009 fiscal year began October 1, 2008, nearly four months before Obama took office.)

The problem is that debt has really taken off the last couple of years. $1.293 trillion deficit in 2010. $1.3 trillion deficit in 2011. $1.327 trillion deficit for 2012.

Our national debt rose $4.9 trillion during Bush's two terms. That was a near doubling of the national debt -- we put ourselves on a dangerous and unsustainable path.

But since then, our national debt has gone from $10.6 trillion on Bush's last day in office to $15.7 trillion and counting -- in a little more than three years. Any narrative other than that is a lie.

It's actually more of a function of Congress, than the president. The president sends BS budget requests to Capital Hill that have no chance of getting passed -- he can claim that he tried to raise taxes or propose spending cuts over the next decade, knowing it isn't going to happen. The House and Senate come up with their resolutions that they reconcile, and voila $1 trillion deficits every year since 2009.
Click to expand...

. . . without revenue increases, lots of luck . . .

The Ryan/GOP jokebook . . . the gift which keeps on taking, and taking, and taking.
Click to expand...

If we are going to spend $3.8 trillion worth, yup, without revenue increases, it ain't gonna happen.

Of course, a pretty good question is why does our Federal government need to spend $3.8 trillion -- and growing at a steep pace?

As recently as 2001, Federal spending was less than half of that.
Click to expand...

Most of the increase, though, came under a GOP administration. Federal spending in Bush's last budget was something like $3.5 trillion. Making massive cuts in the middle of a recession could have triggered a major depression.

I think the debate is there to be had, but if the debate becomes the GOP wants to cut vs. all of the increase goes on Obama, then it starts from a disingenuous place. If the debate is that the GOP and the Democrats in Washington have put us in a horrible situation through cowardly decisions from both sides that were geared more toward pandering to voters and less toward what would be best for the country, and now we have to bite the bullet and decide how we want to get out of it, then it is a much more honest debate.

JRoyal · May 7, 2012

YankeeFan said:

Here comes the money from the Left:

After months on the sidelines, major liberal donors including the financier George Soros are preparing to inject up to $100 million into independent groups to aid Democrats’ chances this fall. But instead of going head to head with the conservative “super PACs” and outside groups that have flooded the presidential and Congressional campaigns with negative advertising, the donors are focusing on grass-roots organizing, voter registration and Democratic turnout.

The departure from the conservatives’ approach, which helped Republicans wrest control of the House in 2010, partly reflects liberal donors’ objections to the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, which paved the way for super PACs and unbridled campaign spending.

But in interviews, donors and strategists involved in the effort said they also did not believe they could match advertising spending by leading conservative groups like American Crossroads and Americans for Prosperity, and instead wanted to exploit what they see as the Democrats’ advantage in grass-roots organizing.

“Super PACs are critically important,” said Rob Stein, the founder of the Democracy Alliance, a group of liberal donors who will convene near Miami this week to discuss where to steer their money this year. But the liberal groups, he said, believe that local efforts and outreach through social media “can have an enormous impact in battleground states in 2012.”

In a move likely to draw in other major donors, Mr. Soros will contribute $1 million each to America Votes, a group that coordinates political activity for left-leaning environmental, abortion rights and civil rights groups, and American Bridge 21st Century, a super PAC that focuses on election-oriented research. The donations will be Mr. Soros’s first major contributions of the 2012 election cycle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/us/politics/liberals-putting-super-pac-money-into-grass-roots.html?_r=1
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It was just a matter of time. Both sides have these big-money donors who drop tons into different groups. I hate what super PACs have done to the electoral process, mainly because of the ridiculous loopholes in the laws. Everyone know they're a joke. Heck, Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart showed how much earlier this year. It'll be interesting to see if the Democrats' strategy of feeding the grass roots works better than funding the super PACs and paying for ad buys.

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