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Romney a Lock - You Can Put it On the Board YESSSS!!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 5, 2012.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    And, it was taken as an insult by HRC against stay at home moms, not the other way around.

    For Baron to say she was criticized for not staying home and baking cookies is the very opposite of what happened in this situation.
     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Of course she was being questioned and criticized for not staying home. That's why she said it.

    As I posted upthread, every woman has to justify the choices she makes. No man does.
     
  3. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Well also because of the RWSM's Hilary Derangement Syndrome: every time HC drew breath, they went berserk. Similar to the current arrangement with the M.N., although not nearly as vehement.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I agree with you 100% that women shouldn't have to justify their choices, and that it's completely hypocritical as opposed to men.

    Sarah Palin faced questions about running for office while raising a special needs child that Rick Santorum never faced.

    But, as was pointed out earlier, Clinton's "cookies" comment was in response to criticism from noted Republican Jerry Brown.

    And, most of the questions regarding her career had to do with ethics questions, state business, etc., not the idea of her working.

    From the time of the comments:

     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Where did I say who was questioning her?

    Coming off 12 years of Nancy Reagan and Barbara Bush, do you honestly think Hillary's "suitability" and "personal ambition" weren't topics of hotly animated discussion everywhere?

    As were Michelle Obama's, just 4 years ago?

    We're still having the same argument.

    Women have to explain everything they do. First ladies or welfare mothers.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The comment was introduced to the conversation by Baron, who framed it as being in response to Republican criticism.

    He was wrong about both the source of the criticism, and the nature.

    I don't much disagree with this.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Rubio says it again:

     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Or VP candidates - see Palin, Sarah
     
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Which means you are ignoring history.

    From the PBS link that you quoted:

    JUDD (VO): Never mind that Clinton went on to say feminism means the right to choose work, or home, or both; the damage had been done. She'd been tagged an elitist and an ultra - feminist.

    Now, who, in past history, has complained about feminism? Liberals or conservatives? Who complained when women decided to leave traditional homemaker jobs and enter the workplace? Liberals or conservatives? Who has fought against equal pay for the same job regardless of gender? Liberals or conservatives?
     
  10. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Yes. And maybe Ann Romney knows something about women in the economy. I don't put it past her not to. It's not that hard to assess.

    I just wonder why Mitt Romney can't assess it. He's seen more than enough in his life. And I'm certain that, philosophically, he doesn't agree with whole chunks of Ryan's loony budget because his whole political/fiscal history suggests as much.

    But it's the game he has to play. He'll lose, but it's a game he has to play.

    I have said before: Romney is the only candidate who'd be allowed to win the nomination by the GOP, and he won't win the election. The last thing the GOP wants is 8 years of Romney. It wants four more years of blame-gaming Obama, whose decisions are right of Reagan on many fiscal matters.

    This, to me, is all a distraction. And if it doesn't come to pass, I'll say so. But, too, something will have happened to change it.
     
  11. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Since virtually all exemptions run out by 8/15, Mitt will have to cough up the data well before the convention, never mind the election.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    That's one person's opinion. It's not some fact. There's nothing referenced to back it up.

    As for equal pay -- which is a whole other issue, but whatever, you like to move the goal posts -- please provide me with one, single quote from a Republican who opposes equal pay for the same job, regardless of gender.

    You won't find a single one.

    You might find some opposing specific legislation, but not the underlying principle.

    It's a favorite of Dems. They'll call something the "Clean Air Act" or the "Clean Water Act", and if you oppose the legislation, they'll say you're against clean air or water.

    It's not true in the case of clean air or water, it's not true in the case of equal pay.
     
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