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Romney a Lock - You Can Put it On the Board YESSSS!!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 5, 2012.

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  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Mmmm hmmmm.

    I usually enjoy your posts, but you have become such a concern troll -- on everything -- over the past week that I'm going to have to avoid them. I don't even think you believe what you're saying anymore.
     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    April 20th is Equal Pay Day.

    www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1983185,00.html
     
  3. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    If the business can prove they pay unequal salaries because of merit, then that's one thing.

    But if they hire two people of different gender multiple times, and the vast majority of the time they give one gender a higher salary, and can't prove the merit, then they open themselves up to unequal pay complaints.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Oh, that's bull shit.

    Legislation is not the way to solve all problems. "Equal Pay" is a nice campaign slogan, but a lot goes into salary decisions. Very little of what goes into it has anything to do with the genitals of the employee.

    Some here want to find fault with everything that any Republican does.

    But, they go with the conventional wisdom, which is often false. The "baking cookies" thing for instance. The conventional wisdom is that she was responding to "right wing" criticism regarding her decision to work.

    The reality is, she was responding to Jerry Brown's criticism regarding her business ethics.

    It's a big difference, and it should be called out.

    There are real differences between the parties. But, I actually believe the differences are on how to achieve the goals, not on what the goals are.

    To consistently paint Republicans as being against progress, or being "mean" is BS. We disagree with your "solutions" to society's "problems".

    And, Baron specifically, is unable to separate policy from goals. He frames every issue in the most simplistic of terms, regardless of the realities.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    And, how and where do they "prove" this baron? In a court of law?

    Should they be hauled into a court room to defend every difference in salary?
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    If it's blatant enough, yes.

    If the top 20 executives at a company are all male, that'd look pretty bad.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    What does that have to do with equal pay? And, does any such company exist anyway?
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    You have to love this: Washington Post calls it, "true but false":

    Why does the Obama administration hate women Baron? They should pass a law to "fix" this problem.
     
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Look throughout history. Most "progress" has been achieved because of legislation. Not because the powerful have decided to be generous and share.

    Heck, today MLB is celebrating Jackie Robinson, who was signed by the Dodgers in '45. Which was when the Ives-Quinn Act was passed by the state, prohibiting discrimination. In other words, the government was telling businesses they couldn't discriminate on the basis of color:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christopher-lamb/jackie-robinson_b_1426732.html

    Which Branch Rickey acknowledged was one of the reasons why he signed Robinson. The political pressure.

    Imagine that. The government getting involved in a private business' hiring decisions.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Actually, they did intervene.

    Remember the auto bailout? They preserved thousands of manufacturing jobs, which went mostly to men.
     
  11. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Ah yes. The old favorite Republican meme: Everyone has equivalent opportunities, so any difference in outcome is self-determined.

    Complete and utter bullshit, of course. If things were truly equal, pay would be equal for women, within standard deviation, IN SPITE OF all these factors that you describe.
     
  12. Crash

    Crash Active Member

    Actually, Obama tried to prevent a large amount of those female job losses. Women are more likely to work in the public sector, the area that's been shedding jobs for two years now. Obama's legislative priorities would have protected a lot of those jobs, but the GOP blocked them.
     
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