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Ron Borges - Plagiarist?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 5, 2007.

  1. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    By dude I assume you mean an editor?
     
  2. You're such a hypocrite.

    If you find a blog that espouses a viewpoint that you agree with - you are the first one to post the link to that blog.

    In your world - everyone needs to STFU (unless they agree with you). Typical lefty.
     
  3. Boomer7

    Boomer7 Active Member

    Indeed. Why can't we lefties learn to embrace dissenters the way our opponents do?

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2004/story?id=214695&page=1
     
  4. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    AP... what a steaming pit of assholes.

    Credit the FUCKING papers!
     
  5. henryhenry

    henryhenry Member

    utterly incoherent blondie. one of the worst sentences ever posted on this board.

    to the Plagiarism Absolutists I ask this question:

    how much alteration is enough to avoid being beheaded?
    one word? two words? an adjective? inversion of a clause?

    because if you're going to be absolutist about the definition, you have to be absolutist about what is not plagiarism. So where is the line drawn? And who is to draw it? How about you SF Express, you seem to know EXACTLY what plagiarism is. Why don't we let you be the ultimate arbiter? Or you Blondie, why don't you lay down the rules? One word? two words? a clause? an adjective? Let's clear the air so we know exactly how to proceed.
     
  6. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Here's the line:

    If you do all the work yourself, you're fine.
    If you use someone else's work and don't attribute it, you're wrong.

    Macho shouldn't enter into it, but it does. There is nothing wrong with saying "according to so-and-so," or "so-and-so told the Podunk Press."

    If you don't like having to do that, make your own calls.
     
  7. henryhenry

    henryhenry Member



    but what if you alter the other person's work? change the words around. invert the sentences. change an adjective. that's still plagiarism? not according to most of the people posting on this thread. they seem to be saying that if you put it in your own words you're okay.

    sorry, but you haven't drawn a line. you've created a mud puddle.
     
  8. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    I think my line is pretty clear.
     
  9. henryhenry

    henryhenry Member

    "pretty clear" isn't enough when careers and reputations are at stake.
     
  10. Take yes for an answer, Chris.
     
  11. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Then you\'re asking us to give you ever editor\'s and every publisher\'s definition of plagiarism. Sorry, we can\'t do that. Call them and ask them. Or take some journalism classes if you want to get into this in excruciating detail.

    Do what you\'re comfortable doing. All I know is nobody\'s career and reputation would be at stake for suspicion of plagiarism if they followed the guidelines I posted and you found wanting.
     
  12. henryhenry

    henryhenry Member

    what guidelines? you are suggesting nothing but a vague notion.
    i'm asking for specifics and you won't go there. tell me how many words have to be changed? how many phrases? don't throw out some righteous-sounding generality and then walk away from the details.
     
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