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Ron Borges - Plagiarist?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 5, 2007.

  1. I just read both versions. Boy, that's pretty bad.
     
  2. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    That's pretty bad. An obvious and blatant theft. One or two paragraphs (and maybe even three) with the exact same language and maybe Borges could claim he screwed up, but it's like seven consecutive paragraphs with similar structure and punctuation. For pete's sake, if you're going to steal, at least do some additional rewritting or reporting, or SOMETHING other than move commas around.
     
  3. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    ron's a long-time buddy. but when i received the email from "cold, hard football facts" yesterday and read the deal, i thought, "uh-oh." it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
     
  4. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    You are kidding, right?
     
  5. henryhenry

    henryhenry Member

    off with his head!

    but give every jock/coach/boor serial criminal/drug/basic human civility offender a second chance. and third, fourth, fifth, etc.

    infinite patience and compassion for those we write about.

    but for colleagues...

    he's below contempt! put him out on the streets!

    the mob is circling - smelling blood.
     
  6. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    "Wow, it looks like so-and-so more than likely committed such-and-such."

    Oh? Hmm. I see.

    "Yeah, and usually that's punishable by termination."

    Yeah.





    (And this kind of conversation is wrong how?)

    Oh, and the comparisons you made? Apples and oranges on multiple levels.
     
  7. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    hh

    it's the business we've chosen, kid. we must be above the fray. that's simply the way it is. even moreso when you hit as hard as my buddy ron has.
     
  8. Dedo

    Dedo Member

    I have no inside knowledge whatsoever, but I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that Borges and Sando are part of the same notes exchange network. And I'm convinced those things are more trouble than they're worth.

    I used to be involved in those on a couple of different beats, and I was always amazed by the people who saw them as a license to cut-and-paste. Some people think that running a "Material from other sources, blah, blah, blah" tagline at the end of their notes column absolves them from having to attribute, or even change the damn wording, but it doesn't.
     
  9. SF_Express

    SF_Express Active Member

    This whole notes exchange thing has been a very slippery slope for a long, long time.

    If this isn't way over the line, it certainly pushes it hard.
     
  10. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest


    This may not be the first offense.

    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1307
     
  11. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    listen, in this day-and-age, you don't even have to be part of a notes network. there are sites that post every nfl story in every paper. so what? you still have to at least write the info in your own words. looks like ron was just pressed for time or something.

    again, i am proud to consider ron a friend. but i'm no apologist. it certainly appears that he effed up here.
     
  12. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    This looks really bad and Ron has a lot of explaining to do, it appears.
     
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