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I love how a female journalist's looks always get brought up in any discussion of her work on here. Other than Whitlock and Albom, you NEVER see that happen around here with men.

It's bullshit, and has no fucking bearing on the credential issue whatsoever.

EDIT: I'm having quote function issues today.

 

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I never said it had any bearing on the credential issue. No one did. We've now had about 20 people say it DOESN'T have any bearing on the credential issue. So, I guess we all agree. Yay!!!

But since you brought it up again ... I at first mentioned her looks as the very last of a fairly long list of reasons I didn't like her, and I said I didn't like that they always said she was hot and she wasn't. So, I go back to this point: her station made it an issue. Her coworkers made it an issue by ever making me even ask whether she was actually good looking or not. The guys on her station never talk about what they look like, and if she wanted to seen exactly the same as them, she should have had them cut it out. Maybe it was the other hosts' faults that it was ever brought up, but it was brought up many times. They're the ones that paint her to be "a hot, hard nosed reporter". I'm the one that saw what they were selling and formed my own opinion.

All that said, I again stress, I in no way think the "babe" part of her persona had anything to do with her getting her pass pulled. The "hard nosed" part probably did.

I think it's stupid for people to always quickly ask if a female reporter is hot — it's probably hard to stop, but stupid nevertheless — but I think it becomes a fair question when being "hot" and good looking are a part of that person's on air character.

 

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Then why bring it up on a thread about credentials-- in the journalism section?

If you want to talk about her weight and her nose, go over to Anything Goes and start a thread "Rhonda Moss - Hot or Not?"

Incidentally, a broadcaster doesn't always have say in how a station "markets" her. It's a reality of the business that a lot of us have to live with.

 

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Someone said they didn't think she was a good reporter. I responded with other things I didn't like about her reporting.

 

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How do her looks have ANY bearing on her reporting skills or lack thereof?

 

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Her station bills her as hot. I guess when I said "reporting" a couple minutes ago, I meant to say "status with the station."

Here, let me try again: I responded with other things I didn't like about her status with the station.

And if you are just about to ask how her status with the station has anything to do with her looks, please refer to the essay I wrote earlier about how her station tells me she's hot and sells it as part of her persona.

Anyone else get the feeling we're going in a circle?

 

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I'm 99.999999% sure with the way sexual harassment issues are handled these days, Moss would have no problem changing the way she's "marketed" on her station if she wanted to.

She's a fine journalist, as far as "hard-nosed" types go. She asks tough questions and enjoys getting a reaction out of those she interviews. She doesn't mind stepping on toes- -whether they be athletes, coaches or fellow reporters- -and she's on top of everything pertinent going on in the KC sports scene. Props to her on all accounts.

However, she (a JOURNALIST) is still a public figure, and if her looks are brought up on the air (A JOURNALISM MEDIUM) on a consistnet basis, then can they not be discussed on a journalism board?

 

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You know what pilot?  You had me with your initial post... until you brought up her looks.  You ruined your own credibility.

 

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Look, we all, to one extent or another, get our looks discussed.

That's kind of the way the world at large turns, not just our little subsection of it.

There's really not much point in making more of it than it is. But I guess that's also how the world at large turns. We're P.C. about getting up in the morning.

Let's face it, you don't see too many old dogs on television, especially on the female side. On the male side, seems you get more of a pass – especially if you come from print, not to mention any names.

I once had my appearance discussed on a message board, at length. And I'm in print. Most of them had only my mug shot, less than one inch square, to go on (actually, it's not too bad - doesn't look much like me).

The consensus on said message boards was "not half-bad looking." That's probably high praise, given my age and given what I assume the average age of those posters to be.

You know, you take what you can get. I didn't ask them to expand on that and decide whether that actually meant "half good-looking" ;D

But if this woman is somehow bring promoted as "hot", and she's not anyone's standard definition of "hot" (I realize that varies), then she's fair game. I'm sorry. If she's as chatty as it appears, and she feels being talked about in that way in any way impugned her credibility as a serious journalist even by her own radio station, I hope she'd put a stop to it. Obviously, she hasn't, or it hasn't had any effect. Draw your own conclusions.

 

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You couldn't be more wrong.

First of all, that's a fight most of us won't take up because we don't want to be labeled a whiner or whistle-blower. You have no idea how strong the "make no waves" feeling is once you've worked your ass off to get a gig. You want to prove you have thick skin and aren't a troublemaker.

Secondly, let me provide you with a recent example... why not.

I work in local TV. A co-worker recently went on one of those idiotic shock jock local radio shows. The issue of my breasts came up.

It got back to me. I worked up some courage and went into my boss's office to tell him I didn't appreciate it -- That's not the way I want to be portrayed. And by taking part in the yuks, the co-worker was giving weight to that image.

Know what my boss did? He laughed. He thought it was great. His response was basically, "Oh well."

 

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Obviously as a male, I can't speak on this first-hand like you can. I appreciate your stance, but my point is this:
Moss is very much hyped and respected as a reporter at her station. Beyond that, as far as her work goes, she's had no problem standing up to higher-ups--coaches, players and, of course, owners. If she has a problem with how she's portrayed in her work environment, I can't imagine she'd hesitate in getting it changed. And as much as her station says they like her, I'm sure they'd oblige in doing what it takes to make sure she isn't uncomfortable on the job.

Maybe I'm wrong, though.

 

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if you don't engage these people in a debate about rhonda's or any female reporter's looks, they'll stop and move on to something else. i used to work at rhonda's old station. she has no control over how she's marketed. the people running the station are clueless and consistently mismanage the portrayal of her work and why you should listen to what she has to say. the incompetence at that station is mindblowing.

overall this board does have a double-standard when it comes to discussing the looks of men and women journalists. but it's just one of many double-standards rampant on this board. don't expect fairness on this board.

lugnuts, i had no idea you're a tv "journalist," and i'm appalled that your breasts were discussed on local radio. please contact me if you need a strong shoulder to cry on. i'm here for you.