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Royals revoke credentials - UPDATED AGAIN

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Moderator1, Jun 9, 2006.

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  1. i got one voice. mine.... i can't speak for the star... the newspaper did write an editorial.

    i'm wondering where apse is on this situation. the society of professional journalists chimed in.... i'd like to see all journalist organizations chime in on this. nabj should offer an opinion. i hate it when people will only defend their own. cowards. and very divisive. if $h*t ain't right, $h*t ain't right. we allegedly stand for all of this and that but we too often choose up sides based on whether it directly affects us or someone who looks like us or works in our profession.
     
  2. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    Sitting out covering a game or two is easy to say, but the paper has to weigh which interest is more important to serve: Its readers or its profession. The paper is, after all, a business, and as unseemly as the notion is to some of us in the press box, that initiative trumps everything else. Championing a journalistic cause by boycotting a game or three might seem good for the profession in the long run, and we all know the access issues in play here. On the other hand, the paper at the very least as an unwritten pledge to cover the team in order to serve its readers. I'm not sure sitting out a game or two upholds that pledge.
     
  3. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    Those organizations wield little power.

    It's not a real fight until somebody sues.
     
  4. just what i expected from a tv "journalist."

    nothing we can do about it, so we might as well sit quietly and watch this female radio "journalist" get her clock cleaned.

    cowards.
     
  5. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    I didn't say we should sit quietly. I suggested someone might sue.

    But hey, if you think the opinion of the "NABJ" is going to make a difference, you go ahead and think that.
     
  6. Terence Mann

    Terence Mann Member

    Jason, did Lugnuts say there should be no fight? Not in the post you quoted. It appears she's making a realistic assessment of the relative power of the journalism organizations in question. There is a difference between saying not to fight and pointing out the parameters of different types of fights.

    You seem pretty prone to name-calling, and it's telling that you'd put "journalist" in quotes, as if that's still in question, but you need no such qualifier on the word cowards, because you've already rushed to judgment.
     
  7. well rather than run around wondering why your boss doesn't care that one of your co-workers discussed your breasts on a radio show, why not just sue? nothing is gonna happen until someone files a lawsuit. your boss shouldn't make his voice heard on the issue until you're willing to sue somebody. maybe if people opened their freaking mouths when organizations stripped legitimate reporters of their rights rather than waiting on a lawsuit this type of crap wouldn't happen.
     
  8. Terence Mann

    Terence Mann Member

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  9. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    Jason, I didn't say she should sue.  I said it's not a real fight until someone does.  It's sad, but that's the way it is right now.

    My issue?  It was never a fight to begin with, and I didn't want it to be.  I was simply using it as an example of how a station "markets" talent, and how we often have no say in that-- and might I remind you, you agreed with me.

    You mentioned in your column that one of the Glasses had gone on Dateline and got his ass handed to him over the Bangladeshi kids.

    Let me ask you something.  Did anything come of that?  Is Wal Mart still doing the practice?  If it had no effect, I have to question the power of the media these days.

    Most of this has to do with the public's attention span.  A PR crisis these days seems to be best handled by just letting it flame out.
     
  10. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    I wonder which forces results faster: a newspaper column, or a lawsuit.

    Considering 'Lugnuts' is in 'broadcasting,' I'd say she has quite a 'stake' in the 'outcome' of this 'situation.'  She didn't say they 'had' to sue, she said nothing would 'happen' unless someone 'did.'  The history of media versus sports teams would indicate that she is largely correct.
     
  11. Terence Mann

    Terence Mann Member

  12. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    That's why Iraq hasn't stoked the massive, constant protests Vietnam did. Now, it's more like, "Hell, no, we wo.....ohh, shiny quarter." I'm sure a lot more people would scratch their head now if you said "Abramhoff" than would have six months ago.
     
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