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Running 2010 PGA Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Captain_Kirk, Aug 12, 2010.

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  1. doubledown68

    doubledown68 Active Member

    I think what happened to Appleby was that there was some discussion over what was a "waste" bunker as opposed to just a regular bunker. I think it cost him four shots, and was the impetus to the rule that every piece of sand on the course was to be treated like a normal bunker.

    With two problems in two PGA Championships, I think it's clear that the issue isn't the players.
     
    doubledown68, Aug 16, 2010
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  2. trifectarich

    trifectarich Well-Known Member

    Maybe Herb Kohler or Pete Dye ought to swallow a little pride and make the decision to fill in half of what they're calling bunkers. It wouldn't change at all the competitive nature of the course.
     
    trifectarich, Aug 16, 2010
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  3. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    This never would have happened if he'd had the right caddy.

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    Double Down, Aug 16, 2010
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  4. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    spnited -- to answer your question, the rules official approached Johnson after he made his putt on No. 18 and began talking to him.
     
    Cosmo, Aug 16, 2010
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  5. spnited

    spnited Active Member


    Why didn't he approach him as soon as he "grounded" the club.

    And what the fuck is the big deal about grounding a club if it doesn't improve the lie? Golf has more dumbass rles than any sport.
    If I were Johnson I'd have been ripping everybody in sight for fucking me out of a playoff...after the fact.
     
    spnited, Aug 16, 2010
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  6. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    You can't ground your club because it's a way to test the consistency of the sand (or muck), etc. I understand the no grounding in a hazard rule.
    What I don't understand is how the hell anyone with a brain can call that a bunker? It's a patch of sand where the gallery has been standing.

    Yeah, I suppose you can make the point that a golfer should clarify any time he's on sand. But, again, look at it. That's a bunker?
     
    Moderator1, Aug 16, 2010
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  7. mb

    mb Active Member

    As bullshit as the entire situation is, did Johnson really admit to not reading the rules? Kinda hard to feel a whole lot of sympathy for the guy if he couldn't be bothered to do that.
     
    mb, Aug 16, 2010
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  8. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    I must admit I wan not aware of the rule, although I've played golf for many years now. Obviously not competitively.

    I'm with spnited--seems like a pretty dumb rule. You can "ground" your club in deep rough and take practice swings to get a feel for that, but not sand?

    Competitive advantage at the professional level--no, it's about or should be about shot-making.

    Horrible way for a major championship to be decided. I do wonder how it would have played out had Johnson hit the putt to win it. That would have really been an uncomfortable scene.
     
    Captain_Kirk, Aug 16, 2010
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  9. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    A writer from Golf Digest counted them recently and I think the number was 967.

    I'm fine with the design. Obviously there's a point to all that sand (to make $300-per-round amateurs sh*t themselves?), and they're not about to "fill them in" like some muni. But they need to make a distinction between a greenside trap and a hellhole 50 yards offline.

    I read that there was a local rule in play during the event which allowed removal of loose pebbles from the bunkers. If that was the case (usually a big no-no in golf), then I'd have had no problem with them being declared waste areas and therefore legal to ground one's club in.
     
    playthrough, Aug 16, 2010
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  10. TwoGloves

    TwoGloves Well-Known Member

    David Feherty made a good point when he said he never grounds his club when he's not sure about the situtation. Bottom line is if Johnson didn't hit the ball so far off line he wouldn't have broken a rule, which he did. Stupid rule but it is a rule he should have known.
     
    TwoGloves, Aug 16, 2010
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  11. expendable

    expendable Well-Known Member

    Awesome. I thought of Admiral Ackbar too. Though the folks at Augusta would insist he yell, "It's a bunker!"
     
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    expendable, Aug 16, 2010
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  12. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Horrible way to end a great end to the tournament. I was rooting for Dustin or Bubba and that was just a bad taste. Its on Dustin and his caddy though. They were on notice and they had a rules official with the group and could have asked for a ruling. Looked like a trampled piece of ground though. If the PGA officials were on it all the way, sure wish the guy with the group would have stepped up. But probably wanted to stay out of it unless asked.

    Bubba, great birdie to start and awful approach to 18, not even close. Too bad, what a funky swing and stance on the tee yet hits it 390, awesome to watch (someone tell him they stopped buttoning top button in 1999). Kaymar great, great birdie at 17 to get back into it.
     
    qtlaw, Aug 16, 2010
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