Running 2011-12 College Basketball thread

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No, no mom ever got a house, and no dad ever got a job . . . never, never, ever . . .


The sense of entitlement surrounding that school and that basketball program is beyond comprehension. Yes, I know the football has sucked rocks ever since Bryant, and they have nothing else to hang their hat on athletically that the national public gives a shit about, but still . . . .

 

And you know for a fact that Coach Cal arranged all of this?

 

Here is a good question - can you legitimately find 68 teams to put in this field this year?

I am trying and it is alarming how bad some of these leagues - the Pac 12, the Big 12, the SEC, the ACC even the Big East - are right now in terms of lacking legitimate NCAA Tournament teams at the top.

 

Thought that was Chris Mills.

Has an NCAA men's basketball title been vacated, ever?

 

Great question and we all know the right answer. Too bad we can't do anything about it.

 

I don't think so. Villanova had a runner-up appearance vacated, IIRC.

 

Two points: 1. Calipari has yet to coach at a school that has not had a successful season vacated by the NCAA. 2. The NCAA showed that it will not turn a blind eye to wrongdoings at Kentucky, a program that has had two major NCAA run-ins, including a death penalty under Rupp and the whole Eddie Sutton fiasco.

 

And no one's grades were ever altered and no one ever cheated on an SAT.

 

Cal understands the concept of "plausible deniability" better than any politician ever has.

There's always been a stench of "cheater" around the guy -- from Camby's "extra benefits" to Rose's startling improvement on the SAT to the bags of cash that almost certainly changed hands when Wall, Cousins, et al decided to become the modern-day version of the Fab Five.

Nothing has stuck to him yet. But as even Gotti proved, nobody stays Teflon forever.

 

So do you believe that Roy Williams, Coach K and any other coach who has been at the top for any amount of time really has never looked the other way at extra benefits, guys who had questionable grades, etc., etc.,? Really?

 

Call me when one of them has vacated an NCAA tournament appearance.


Not saying they're clean -- wouldn't know, having never looked into it. Just saying there's a whole lot more smoke around Cal's bonfire.

 

No, but their programs have not had their season's results vacated because of flagrant violations either.

As opposed to John Calipari, who has this inconvenience happen to EVERY team he coaches.

And is it accurate to say Cal's hands are clean? If the SAT scandal never happened, they still would have had the Reggie Rose issue, which by all accounts was a fairly serious violation and there's no way Cal didn't know anything about that one. With the cheating scandal, that one sort of doesn't get noticed though.