Running 2011 Baseball Thread, Vol. I: Dedicated to spnited

2012 free agent starting pitchers:

Erik Bedard (age 33)
Mark Buehrle (33)
Chris Capuano (33)
Chris Carpenter (37) -- $15M club option with a $1M buyout
Bruce Chen (35)
Bartolo Colon (39)
Aaron Cook (33) -- $11M mutual option with a $500K buyout
Kyle Davies (28)
Doug Davis (36)
Ryan Dempster (35) -- $14M player option, no buyout
Zach Duke (29) -- $5.5M club option with a $750K buyout
Jeff Francis (30)
Freddy Garcia (36)
Jon Garland (32) -- $8M club option with a $500K buyout
Aaron Harang (34) -- $5M mutual option with a $500K buyout
Rich Harden (30)
Livan Hernandez (37)
Hisashi Iwakuma (31)
Edwin Jackson (28)
Kenshin Kawakami (37)
Scott Kazmir (28) -- $13.5M club option with a $2.5M buyout
Hiroki Kuroda (37)
Rodrigo Lopez (36)
Paul Maholm (30) -- $9.75M club option with a $750K buyout
Jason Marquis (33)
Kevin Millwood (37)
Sergio Mitre (31)
Roy Oswalt (34) -- $16M mutual option with a $2M buyout
Brad Penny (34)
Oliver Perez (30)
Joel Pineiro (33)
C.C. Sabathia (31) -- may opt out of remaining four years, $92M
Javier Vazquez (35)
Adam Wainwright (30) -- $10M vesting option for '12, $12M for '13
Tim Wakefield (45)
Chien-Ming Wang (32)
Brandon Webb (33)
Dontrelle Willis (30)
C.J. Wilson (31)
Chris Young (33)

 

I read that list and it says DEVELOP AND RETAIN YOUR YOUNG PITCHERS.

 

how is Kuroda a free agent? he's pitched 4 seasons.

 

Fun fact from Thursday -- the Yankee win clinched their 19th straight winning season, which is second-most all time. Of course they are now halfway to the record, held by the Yankees from 1926 to 64. That's just sick.

 

Brewers play the Astros ... good luck with that.

 

I don't think the six-year free agent rule applies to international professional players. For example, Ichiro's original contract with the Mariners was only three years.

 

It's been too long...

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Buster Olney opened a can of worms on his Twitter page.

Wins? Pitching to the score?

We've had the discussion (fight) here a bunch of times. It's been going on for hours, but here's a taste:


@Buster_ESPN -- Buster Olney

It's laughable to suggest winning meaningless for pitchers. When they makes decisions pitch to pitch, it's in name of winning games,not FIP.

Let's say Lincecum leads 5-0, and has a runner at third and one out in 4th. Do you think he cares about his ERA or BABIP in that situation?

 

Careful, my friend. You're going to make some of our sabermetricians cry with that reality.

 

I think there's room for both points of view.

 

Buster Olney is one of the best in the business at breaking news and getting insider info, And his daily Insider notes column is a must-read. But he doesn't know dick about analysis. Give me Rob Neyer every day of the week and twice on Sundays over Olney in that department.

 

Umm, really? I suggest you read "The Last Night Of The Yankees Dynasty."