Running 2011 Bowl Season Thread- Match-ups on Page 1

I don't care what the spin is out of the AD - Boston College's move to the ACC has been a disaster for that athletic department and that program. And they won't sniff that championship game again - they are sentenced to a lifetime of mediocrity.

 

Well Wyoming, which hasn't exactly been a powerhouse in the MWC of late, is 3-1 against the SEC over the past seven seasons, with three of those games on the road. And its only crime this year was a one-pointg loss to TCU, who happens to be the defending Rose Bowl champion ( I think TCU beat a big-boy team in Pasadena).

Again, no great fan of Boise State but it has shown it can get it done out of conference, with two BCS-bowl wins, and numerous other OOC wins against top-flight competition, mostly on the road or at supposed "neutral" sites which are anything but. Boise goes undefeated until the SEC championship game with Georgia's schedule this year.

 

You really think they'd be better off staying in the Big East? A Big East that is losing its three best football programs (historically) in WVU, Pitt, and Syracuse? If Boston Garbage fans aren't getting fired up to play Climpson, FSU and North Carolina in football I can't see them being giddy over hosting South Florida, Louisville or Cincinnati. Pitt was reportedly offered one of the slots in the ACC raid of 2003 and it's JFK-lookalike Chancellor said, "errr ahhh, we are committed to a strong Big East." They've regretted it ever siince and couldn't say "yes" fast enough when Swofford offered this time. It's a shit league, and everyone knows its a shit league.

If they're being piss babies over the basketball rivalries, there's always plenty of room on a basketball team's OOC schedule to schedule those guys.

 

If Boston College was still in the Big East, it wouldn't be falling apart like it is.

 

Yes it would. Boston Garbage wasn't an anchor school. No one got the football schedule out to circle when Boston Garbage was coming to town. The teams who brought fans were always Miami, VT and WVU when they were having a good year. BC was mostly irrelevant in the Big East and they've remained that way. What's killed them recently is DeFillippo's "If you look at any other jobs I'll fire your ass" attitude which ran off Jeff Jagodzinski, who had that program at the best level it's been at since Flutie. But hey, at least the slapass they have there now is no threat to leave, right?

Additionally, arrogant ass BC doesn't want to share New England with UCONN rather than build a rivalry which could generate publicity for both. BC is holding back BC. You're a Catholic school in a mostly Catholic city and can't generate support. I feel no sympathy.

 

Boston Garbage? What, are you 8?

I'm no BC fan nor am I a hater. But Boston Garbage?

 

Winning a game here and there against a bigger conference is meaningless. Getting up to play one bowl game against teams who aren't quite as motivated as you are is meaningless.

If Boise State had to play Georgia's schedule, they wouldn't be undefeated as it is much different to play week to week against big, strong teams in a physical conference and play four of them on the road.

Guys get beat up, guys get banged up - if you are not at your best some of these teams can jump up and beat you because they all have good players.

Boise can sleepwalk through about ten of its 12 games annually and not worry about losing.

It is much different.

Ditto Wyoming.

And don't lie to make your point, especially it is ridiculous.

"Wyoming is 3-1 against the SEC in the last seven seasons."

Of course, left out is that two of those wins are against Mississippi in 2004 and 05 when Ole Miss was 3-8 and 4-7, not exactly beating a heavyweight, and they also beat a 5-7 Tennessee team.

But here is reality - since 2002, Wyoming is 4-13 against teams from the Big 6 conferences - and many of those losses are of the ugly variety and includes in 2006 losing to a shitty ACC team and a Greg Robinson led Syracuse team.

That's reality.

 

You do realize that Virginia Tech said it would stay in the Big East if BC and Syracuse would agree to stay and neither of them would make that commitment.

Had BC stayed, the league would still have Va Tech as well.

 

June 2003 - Miami and VT announced they're leaving the Big East for the ACC.

Sept. 2003 - Boston College announces it's leaving for the ACC, after stating publicly it was "committed to the Big East." On the way out the door, BC's President basically says, "Well, at least WE know OUR athletic Programs will be financially secure."

Virginia Tech moved its checker first and said "King me!" Part of that is because the Governor of Virginia was practically mandating it by this point. Point is, anything VT may have said (IE: "We'll stay if you will") turned out to be bullshit and irrevelant. Additionally, VT made the right decision. The Move to the ACC has benefitted them greatly. BC? BC never even came close to winning a Big East title. They were a perennial third place team.

And Griffin, yes, they're garbage. That school carries themselves with the arrogance of Notre Dame but has the results of Purdue. They joined in a lawsuit against the ACC during the pluckings of 2003, bitching and moaning about the ACC trying to monopolize East Coast football, all the while negotiating with the ACC for a spot in the league. So basically they were telling the wife and the mistress they loved them and that they were the only one. Very Catholic of them.

BC's crying about lost rivalries in the northeast yet reportedly blocked UCONN being extended an invite along with Syracuse. You can't have it both ways.

 

Virginia Tech would not have left if, the league meetings in May, BC and Syracuse would have committed to staying.

Neither of them would so Virginia Tech said "all bets are off, we're doing what is best for us."

It was clear Miami was gone and Va Tech was OK with it as long as it had assurances from Syracuse and BC's administrators.

That's how it went down.

Had Syracuse and BC said at that meeting, when the subject came up, "hey, we are staying no doubt" things would be different for the Big East today.

 

And my rebuttal to this is if the Big East had been a better league and actually tried to improve perception, everyone stays and we're not talking about this . But they didn't. I mean, BC didn't leave because it was a Friday afternoon and they were bored. They left because they saw what the Big East was and was going to be with Miami leaving. They also saw how little football was valued by this group.

Miami typed up a 10-page proposal in the late 90s of ways Tranghese could improve the league for football. I'm sure it's in a Providence landfill somewhere now, as none of it was done. Everything was a circle-jerk over basketball, even though it was becoming painfully obvious to anyone paying attention that college football was becoming the big money maker. So while the SEC, Big XII and eventually the ACC and Big 10 began positioning themselves for greater TV deals, more notoriety and even more money, the folks in Providence continued to stare at pictures of Rollie Massamino and Lou Carnasecca and get teary-eyed.

The way BC went about it was under-handed, but I don't blame them for a minute for bolting this league. They'll benefit from having two more former Big East rivals back on the schedule.

Meanwhile, the most recent news to come out today about Big East 3.0 (Or maybe its Big East XP) shows these people still don't get it. Adding SMU, USF and Houston for all sports and Boise State and San Diego State for *drumroll* football only. So there are some who will only play football and some who will play everything...kinda' 15 years ago like when Temple was "football only" while some are all-in. And lording over all of this are a buncha guys with Catholic college basketball background who have no experience with college football. Betcha it falls apart again 5 years.

 

And those were very average Wyoming teams as well, not exactly a MCW heavyweight. An average-to-poor MWC program went on the road and won at Ole Miss and Tennessee, and beat Ole Miss at home, team's that supposedly make the SEC such a meat-grinder.

And this was Georgia's 2011 schedule: Boise State, South Carolina, Coastal Carolina, at Ole Miss, Mississippi State, at Tennessee, at Vanderbilt, Florida, New Mexico State, Auburn, Kentucky, Georgia Tech.

Give Boise State those seven home games and easy road trips and it runs the table. Boise State's toughest game (TCU) trumps anything Georgia played (except for Boise State) until the SEC title game. (TCU would own South Carolina and its drunken QB.)

And please don't tell me that Murder's Row of the Mississippis, Auburn and Kentucky would have decimated Boise. Please.