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Running 2022-23 NHL thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by HanSenSE, Oct 7, 2022.

  1. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    We put who knows how many 14 year old black kids on the ski ramp to hell every year with our school-to-prison pipeline, but God forbid little Johnny might not get to be a hockey millionaire and have to work second shift at Lowe’s.
     
  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    What he did had been well told even before that statement. None of this is new. Even the effect on the kid he bullied; his mom had already said all of that multiple times, and the kid was balling his eyes out in court like he had done something wrong.

    Whatever "due dilligence" the Bruins did or didn't do, the lollipop in the urinal, the racial slurs, the "your parents didn't love you, that is why you have to live with a white family now," the bullying having gone back to elementary school, was all public knowledge.

    No amount of "due dilligence" in the world is going to change what the kid did or the effect it had on his victim.

    What it comes down to at some point is, does he get a second chance, the way lots of people who do bad things get second chances? And if so, how much time is enough time? Or is he banned from the NHL because he was cruel and did terrible things to another kid when he was in elementary and middle school?

    But that family is invested in destroying his life, and while I understand their implacable anger and why they are doing that. ... it can't be left to them deciding when he's been punished enough. They are likely to never feel he's been punished enough.

    If I was his agent, in addition to getting him out there and talking in public, I'd probably pledge a portion of his salary for X years to a service organization dedicated to bullying.
     
  3. Tighthead

    Tighthead Well-Known Member

    Miller’s camp needed to come up with a plan after the Coyotes dumped him. Counselling, charity work, and work behind the scenes to make a fulsome apology to the victim and his family. That way he and the Bruins could now be saying that he had shown genuine remorse etc. Even if the family never came around, as is their right, he could demonstrate that he had done everything within his grasp.

    People deserve second chances, but sometimes they have to be earned. The agent has done a terrible job by talking about his own experience as a victim of discrimination.
     
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  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Eustace King may be a decent agent, I have no idea, but I agree he isn't helping his client. And yeah, it's not enough that he's like the one black agent out there if he was chosen overtly by Miller for that reason (which you'd have to guess is likely).

    He was right that nothing changed and that the reason the Bruins terminated the contract was the backlash they got, not some new information, but that is something the agent needs to eat at this point. His job is to fix it, and he has not come up with any sort of plan like you said for ticking all of the boxes to try to placate some of the backlash. He seems clueless.
     
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  5. matt_garth

    matt_garth Well-Known Member

    If you’re a hockey fan of a certain age, this has all the feels.

     
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  6. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    Thank you for sharing, Matt. Watching Sittler choke up with emotion almost caused me to.
     
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  7. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

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  8. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing.
    EDIT: MacDonald, Borje, Tiger, Sittler. Three of the four played for Detroit late in their careers. Lanny being the exception.
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2022
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  9. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Really think the only thing us Capitals fans have to look forward to this year is the Ovechkin goal watch. I'm going ahead and predicting a playoff miss for the first time in a long time. Just too many injuries. They've already lost 81 man games and it's only mid-November. I was hoping they could hold on until Wilson came back, but they just weren't deep enough to lose Oshie and Connor Brown for extended stretches as well. Add in some missed time for Carlson and Orlov and it's been tough. Hat tip to Ragu, though, Devils look to be absolutely for real.
     
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  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Let's be real, though. I didn't call for the Devils to be this good this fast! I think I just said something to you about how they were a team on the rise. ... building something, while the Caps are just getting older and are going to get passed. I actually thought there was a chance for the playoffs this year for the Devils, but I really thought maybe they were a year away. Some of their play, I am absolutely not surprised about. But some of what they are doing is surprising me. Like I knew the jump Jesper Bratt made last year, but so far this year he is proving to be way better than I had even realized.
     
  11. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    There’s going to be a reckoning in the East
    Devils, Wings and Sabres are better
    Bruins, Caps and Penguins are older
     
  12. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Bruins are fine. Penguins and Caps are not.

    I liked what the Caps did in the offseason but the injuries are just too much. They did not have enough organizational depth to handle them. If you're a Washington fan (raises hand), you have to grapple with an important question: Are you OK with the Caps hanging on as merely a fringe wild-card contender--tooling the roster with average veteran talent--if it means Ovechkin breaks Gretzky's record? Because there's no way they'll blow the whole thing up and rebuild as long as he's chasing it. The 2018 Cup run makes it easier to take.
     
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