Running bowl thread

Steak Snabler · Dec 6, 2009

ucacm said:

Steak Snabler said:

mustangj17 said:

RedHotChiliPrepper said:

Della9250 said:

Thanks a lot BCS, cuz no one wanted to see Boise and TCU take on the big dogs. Let's get a rematch of last year.
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Seriously, what a fucking copout.
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I'm fucking furious over this. We could have had Boise/TCU vs. Florida and then the other team vs. someone else. We could have had two great bowl games. Now we have two crappy ones.

I am so mad about this.
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Sugar Bowl got the first pick (by virtue of losing the No. 1 team) and took Florida. Fiesta Bowl got the No. 2 pick (lost the No. 2 team) and picked TCU based on proximity and ticket sales.

After that, why the hell should the Sugar Bowl have taken Boise State over Cincinnati? Cincinnati was ranked higher all year and ranked No. 3 in the final poll.

What, the Fiesta should have taken freakin' Iowa over Boise State or TCU? Gimme a break.
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Actually, the Sugar Bowl had the last pick and took Cinci by default. They had no other choice. It went Sugar-Fiesta-Orange-Fiesta-Sugar.
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Withdrawn, but still, as MMII said, a win over Iowa or Georgia Tech wouldn't have necessarily proven anything. And Boise will sell more tickets in Glendale than Cincinnati would.

Armchair_QB · Dec 6, 2009

mustangj17 said:

Armchair_QB said:

mustangj17 said:

Armchair_QB said:

Mystery Meat II said:

Della9250 said:

The problem is the arguement is out there that TCU and Boise aren't on the same level. And by not pitting either of them against an undefeated Cincinnati or a one-loss Florida, then no matter who wins in a match-up between the two, the arguement still exists. But if both go and beat those two in separate bowls, it only gives more legitimacy to those who feel they are on the same level and should be treated as such.
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But all season the argument has been made that they ARE on the same level as the Texas/Florida/Alabama troika. Look how many people said TCU would kill Texas last night, and that they'd go unbeaten in the Big 12, and that Boise State beat Oregon so there!

Anyone who complains about the matchup who also made the argument that they're already good enough just undercut themselves, because now they're acknowledging that, no, TCU and Boise AREN'T as good as the other teams and that they DO have to prove themselves against a BCS opponent.

And other than Florida, what opponents would there be at that level? Cincinnati is an arriviste, and a TCU-Cincy game wouldn't go over for the same reasons. Georgia Tech and Iowa aren't so good. And Texas and Alabama are in the national title game.

Boise State-Georgia Tech in the Orange and Iowa-TCU in the Fiesta would be a LOT worse than this.
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Actually, it would have been fun to watch Tech & Iowa shove up TCU & Boise's respective asses.
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Someone obviously never saw Iowa play against Michigan, Michigan State or Indiana this year. TCU would rape them.

What is preventing Boise and TCU from going independent and getting better schedules that way?
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Actually, I saw all those games & several of TCU's. Iowa would wear them down just like they did everybody else they beat.

And Tech would option the shit out of Boise.
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Iowa would wear them down in the second half. But by that time, TCU would be winning 34-12.

And this comes from a Big Ten enthusiast. I actually like Iowa, but I want TCU and Boise to be successful so we can change this crappy bowl system.
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If you think Iowa would give up 34 points to TCU you clearly didn't watch Iowa play this year. Either that or you're a complete fucking idiot.

MileHigh · Dec 6, 2009

The mid-majors have already proven they can beat the big boys. Boise over Oklahoma. Utah over Alabama. And Pittsburgh. The whole thing, yes, needs to be scrapped. No automatic qualifiers. Take the best teams, conference affiliations be damned.

ucacm · Dec 6, 2009

So, if TCU loses to Boise in the Fiesta Bowl, do we get the "they were disappointed to not be playing in the championship game" excuse, a la Alabama?

Mystery Meat II · Dec 6, 2009

MileHigh said:

The mid-majors have already proven they can beat the big boys. Boise over Oklahoma. Utah over Alabama. And Pittsburgh. The whole thing, yes, needs to be scrapped. No automatic qualifiers. Take the best teams, conference affiliations be damned.
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Technically, two mid-majors proved they could beat the big boys (discounting Utah-Pitt because Utah was clearly better) in two years. And what Boise did against Oklahoma shouldn't have any bearing on their resume this year, which pales after the Oregon win.

Crash · Dec 6, 2009

Armchair_QB said:

mustangj17 said:

Armchair_QB said:

mustangj17 said:

Armchair_QB said:

Mystery Meat II said:

Della9250 said:

The problem is the arguement is out there that TCU and Boise aren't on the same level. And by not pitting either of them against an undefeated Cincinnati or a one-loss Florida, then no matter who wins in a match-up between the two, the arguement still exists. But if both go and beat those two in separate bowls, it only gives more legitimacy to those who feel they are on the same level and should be treated as such.
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But all season the argument has been made that they ARE on the same level as the Texas/Florida/Alabama troika. Look how many people said TCU would kill Texas last night, and that they'd go unbeaten in the Big 12, and that Boise State beat Oregon so there!

Anyone who complains about the matchup who also made the argument that they're already good enough just undercut themselves, because now they're acknowledging that, no, TCU and Boise AREN'T as good as the other teams and that they DO have to prove themselves against a BCS opponent.

And other than Florida, what opponents would there be at that level? Cincinnati is an arriviste, and a TCU-Cincy game wouldn't go over for the same reasons. Georgia Tech and Iowa aren't so good. And Texas and Alabama are in the national title game.

Boise State-Georgia Tech in the Orange and Iowa-TCU in the Fiesta would be a LOT worse than this.
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Actually, it would have been fun to watch Tech & Iowa shove up TCU & Boise's respective asses.
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Someone obviously never saw Iowa play against Michigan, Michigan State or Indiana this year. TCU would rape them.

What is preventing Boise and TCU from going independent and getting better schedules that way?
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Actually, I saw all those games & several of TCU's. Iowa would wear them down just like they did everybody else they beat.

And Tech would option the shit out of Boise.
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Iowa would wear them down in the second half. But by that time, TCU would be winning 34-12.

And this comes from a Big Ten enthusiast. I actually like Iowa, but I want TCU and Boise to be successful so we can change this crappy bowl system.
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If you think Iowa would give up 34 points to TCU you clearly didn't watch Iowa play this year. Either that or you're a complete fucking idiot.
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I bet two days ago, you'd have said the same thing if someone said Florida was going to give up 34 to Alabama.

MileHigh · Dec 6, 2009

Mystery Meat II said:

MileHigh said:

The mid-majors have already proven they can beat the big boys. Boise over Oklahoma. Utah over Alabama. And Pittsburgh. The whole thing, yes, needs to be scrapped. No automatic qualifiers. Take the best teams, conference affiliations be damned.
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Technically, two mid-majors proved they could beat the big boys (discounting Utah-Pitt because Utah was clearly better) in two years. And what Boise did against Oklahoma shouldn't have any bearing on their resume this year, which pales after the Oregon win.
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So who cares if you're in a "BCS conference" or not? Lump everyone together and take what are perceived to be the best teams. Had Nebraska won last night, why should they, Iowa and Georgia Tech get into a big-day bowl game over Boise just because of the conference they play in?

Again, just go to a playoff. It wouldn't be that hard. And you can keep these precious bowls that apparently everyone loves.

Batman · Dec 6, 2009

Steak Snabler said:

mustangj17 said:

RedHotChiliPrepper said:

Della9250 said:

Thanks a lot BCS, cuz no one wanted to see Boise and TCU take on the big dogs. Let's get a rematch of last year.
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Seriously, what a fucking copout.
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I'm fucking furious over this. We could have had Boise/TCU vs. Florida and then the other team vs. someone else. We could have had two great bowl games. Now we have two crappy ones.

I am so mad about this.
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Sugar Bowl got the first pick (by virtue of losing the No. 1 team) and took Florida. Fiesta Bowl got the No. 2 pick (lost the No. 2 team) and picked TCU based on proximity and ticket sales.

After that, why the hell should the Sugar Bowl have taken Boise State over Cincinnati? Cincinnati was ranked higher all year and ranked No. 3 in the final poll.

What, the Fiesta should have taken freakin' Iowa over Boise State or TCU? Gimme a break.
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Good point. The four at-large teams were TCU, Boise State, Iowa and Florida. The Sugar got Florida and a nice matchup of two high-powered offenses that should be entertaining.
Given the choice of matching up TCU in the Fiesta Bowl with Boise or an Iowa team that, frankly, has played over its head much of the year, I'd rather see TCU-Boise.

I Should Coco · Dec 6, 2009

Speaking as an Iowa fanboi, I like the matchup with Georgia Tech.

Iowa's defense has been its strength all year, and in Josh Nesbitt, the Hawkeyes will face the toughest QB they've seen all season.

Looks like a great game to me!

dooley_womack1 · Dec 6, 2009

Iowa, who barely got past Northern Iowa and Arkansas State, beating TCU?? HAHAHAHAHAHA

Armchair_QB · Dec 6, 2009

UCLA has to wait until next week to find out if they get to play in a bowl game. ESPN.com has the Eagle Bank Bowl match-up listed as UCLA/Army vs. Temple.

If Army beats Navy UCLA stays home. If Navy beat Army UCLA goes to D.C.
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WS · Dec 6, 2009

dooley_womack1 said:

Iowa, who barely got past Northern Iowa and Arkansas State, beating TCU?? HAHAHAHAHAHA
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you're all idiots if you think ANYONE can run on the MIGHTY, ELITE IOWA HAWKEYES!

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