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Running bowl thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Mystery Meat II, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    OK, so results mean nothing. Thanks for enlightening me.
     
  2. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Sorry, where did I say that?
     
  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Daisy chains really don't. You win or you lose. Margins and things like that don't really mean much.
     
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    If by "within 3 touchdowns" you mean 1 point, you were damn close.
     
  5. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Over a season, they sure the hell can, Rick. And those denigrating Boise would also tend to disagree with you.
     
  6. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Here's the way out. Make the field elastic with a minimum of 16 teams.

    The top 16 teams in the BCS get in ... guaranteed. But they are not guaranteed to avoid a preliminary round game.

    What of the conference winners not in the BCS top 16? They are in too, but must play a preliminary round game against teams in ascending order from the No. 16 spot on up.

    Here's how it would work:

    Preliminary round, Dec. 5
    East Carolina at No. 16 West Virginia
    Troy at No. 15 Miami
    Central Michigan at No. 14 BYU

    If a non-top 16 conference winner is ranked No. 17-25, they are seeded against the lowest top 16 team. (For example, had No. 22 Nebraska won the Big 12, they'd automatically play No. 16 WVU). That wasn't the case this year as ECU, Troy and CMU are all unranked in the BCS. In that case, they are given the most geographically friendly matchup.

    First round, Dec. 12 (campus sites)
    No. 16 West Virginia or East Carolina at No. 1 Alabama
    No. 9 Georgia Tech at No. 8 Ohio State
    No. 11 Virginia Tech at No. 5 Florida (No. 11 seed moved to avoid 5-12 SEC vs. SEC)
    No. 13 Penn State at No. 4 TCU
    No. 15 Miami or Troy at No. 2 Texas
    No. 10 Iowa at No. 7 Oregon
    No. 14 BYU or Central Michigan at No. 3 Cincinnati
    No. 12 LSU at No. 6 Boise State (No. 12 seed moved to avoid 5-12 SEC vs. SEC)

    -- From the quarterfinals on ... a mix of five traditional bowl sites -- Miami, New Orleans, Dallas, Phoenix, Pasadena -- along with two cities that bid for playoff games, for the sake of argument, lets say it's Indianapolis and Minneapolis, will host the remaning games.

    Quarters, Dec. 19
    No. 1-16 winner (projects as Alabama) vs. No. 8-9 winner (Ohio State) (at New Orleans)
    No. 4-13 winner (TCU) vs. No. 5-11 winner (Florida) (at Dallas)
    No. 2-15 winner (Texas) vs. No. 7-10 winner (Oregon) (at Minneapolis)
    No. 3-14 winner (Cincinnati) vs. No. 6-12 winner (Boise State) (at Indianapolis)

    Semis, Jan. 1
    No. 1-16-8-9 winner (Alabama) vs. No. 4-13-5-11 winner (TCU) (at Miami)
    No. 2-15-7-10 winner (Texas) vs. No. 3-14-6-12 winner (Cincinnati) (at Phoenix)

    Championship, Jan. 8
    At Pasadena (Alabama vs. Texas)
     
  7. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    They're wrong, then. Every game is different. If the goal was to win by as many points as possible every time, coaches would game plan in a completely different way and you'd get different results.
     
  8. Crash

    Crash Active Member

    I didn't ask if you thought Alabama would win. Don't let words and language get in your way.

    I've watched Alabama and Florida play enough this year -- and so had a lot of other people -- to know that not very many people would have guessed, much less expected, Alabama to hang 30+ on the Gator defense. Using your logic, to guess that would have been "fucking idiotic."

    My point is that you might have watched Iowa and TCU play every single minute of every single game. You don't have a damn clue if TCU can score 34 against Iowa, and neither do I. So get over yourself. If you want to make an argument, make an argument. If it's that good of an argument, you don't need to call people fucking idiots.
     
  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Crash.
     
  10. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Good in theory but the big thing about taking December off is because of final exams and all that who-ha. And keeping the bowls "tradition."

    13 weeks to play 12 games. Football feeds athletic departments, so keep the 12-game schedule. If you want a conference championship game, it needs to be incorporated into the 13 weeks.

    Regular season ends on Thanksgiving weekend. Noon EST of Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend, you announce a 16-game bracket. First-round on campus sites the first weekend of December when these handful of conference championship games are played.

    Reseed the teams for your four quarterfinals in the Rose, Orange, Fiesta and Sugar Bowls. If you lose in the first round, congrats, you get the play in Shreveport and El Paso and all the other bowl games no one cares about.

    Semifinals are the Saturday of the NFL conference championship weekend. Championship is a week later, between the NFL conference championship games and the Super Bowl. Rotate it around to whoever throws the most money at you. Site of the four major bowls. Dallas. San Diego. Etc.
     
  11. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    So, to sum up your argument, it's ok for somebody to say TCU would score 34 on Iowa.

    But it's not ok for me to say TCU wouldn't score 34 on Iowa.

    That's just fucking brilliant.
     
  12. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I deleted the rest so this wouldn't take up too much space.

    The reason the play-in idea wouldn't fly is this - the conferences that would be forced into the play-in games would be the same conferences that are already "shut out" in the current system. They aren't going to agree to a new system if their lot in postseason life doesn't change.
     
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