Running bowl thread

that Manning projected better as a PRO? Undoubtedly.

But given the numbers, there can be little doubt CW was more productive and more successful against similar competition and yes, probably a better COLLEGE QB.

 

That's really a difficult argument, because college statistics depend on so many variables, coaching and the system you're in being the most notable.

Just because Michael Jordan's college stats were ordinary does not mean there were dozens of players who were better "college players" than him. Is it really fair to lessen his resume just because his coach put a leash on him? Basically, you are who you are. Manning didn't just "get better" when he put on a Colts uniform. Weinke didn't just "get worse" when he put on a Panthers uniform. The FSU system and coaching and Weinke's teammates just did a good job of playing to his strengths and hiding his flaws. Weinke could throw a screen pass to Peter Warrick and get a 70-yard touchdown out of it. Few college QBs are so blessed.

"If I have to face the Gators, I want Weinke as my QB. But if I have to face the Pittsburgh Steelers, give me Manning."

The above sentence --- ridiculous as it is --- is how you would have to justify Wenke as the better college player.

 

You work so hard not to give in to stereotyping, and then ...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4809698

 

They didn't have much choice. Homer's Feed Store and Bait Shop was booked this weekend.

 

And once again that is a whole lot of drivel and meaningless BS and another way of saying if I were to be objective I'd probably have to concede that Weinke had a better college career than Peyton Manning and the proof of that is I am left with NFL scouts rankings (which have little to do with you actual career) and bragging that Manning was only 0-3 against Florida instead of 0-4!!

I'm sure that you would make the same argument about Tim Tebow and, oh I don't know, Akili Smith, since you know, NFL executives were drolling over Akili Smith and Tebow is likely a fourth or fifth rounder, well, you know, Akili Smith (and insert how many first rounders here) were better college quarterbacks than Tebow.

That's asinine.

The NFL has nothing to do with this discussion, but hey, I'm sure in your world Willie Parker was a better running back in college than the guys he sat the bench behind because LOOK AT HOW MANY YARDS HE'S RUN FOR IN THE NFL!!!

Apples to oranges and you know it.

When it comes to college careers....

Chris Weinke > Peyton Manning.

Deal with it and stop whining about it.

 

I wasn't the one who brought a bowl game from 11 years ago into this discussion for no real purpose.

 

That's very true.

But MJ's accomplishments with the Bulls did not change what he was at Carolina, a fabulously-talented player who was handcuffed to a great degree by his coach, who put team over the individual. Thus Jordan was not as good a college player (in actual, measurable production, not potential), as he could have been.

It's the Tim Brown-Don McPherson comparison. Obviously Brown had a far better pro career, and may have been the better "player." But I'll always take what McPherson accomplished at Syracuse his senior year over Brown's rather ordinary numbers at ND.

Productivity for the team your on is what matters. As a "college player" - ie, what they did IN COLLEGE - McPherson was far superior to Brown.

 

I kinda winced when I saw that, too, but then I figured that Wal-Mart paid for the privilege. As it turns out, it's the only place in town with a big enough parking lot to accomodate the crowds.

 

Haven't bumped chests with you yet after the Tide's title.
The team sure earned it.
Hope the trip out West went well.

 

I get that, but still, it pours gasoline on all the redneck stereotypes about Alabama and their fans.






...Never mind how true they are. < ;D ducking>

 

What about the places they play basketball and football?

 

There is very little parking around the football stadium. It's crammed right onto the edge of campus and takes a massive, multi-agency cooperative to coordinate traffic on game day.

The basketball coliseum does have a massive parking lot, but the team is out of town this weekend. To have such a "viewing" at the coliseum, they'd have to bring operations people in on what would normally be an off-day.

Digging further, it turns out Dr Pepper and Wal-Mart were co-sponsors of the trophy presentation. So it seems that Wal-Mart did in fact pay for the privilege.

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=11792630

So it looks like the trophy would have been displayed at Wal-Mart regardless, had Texas (or USC or Michigan or Upper Eastside Teasips University) won the national title, rather than Alabama.

Having said that, I'm not going to stop you from making jokes if you must ...