Running gun violence thread

Kevin Ward says hi.

 

It ain't armed robbery if the gun ain't loaded [/h.i.mcdonough]

 

Not at all. I am saying that what the police say about his record is of little or no value either way, since they don't really have any record-keeping. But it is going to be cited early and often that he has an exemplary record.

 

It shocks me that people will defend anything about that robbery in the video.

 

Effin' clerk provoked the poor kid.

 

Okay, so Mr. Brown was not an entirely innocent man, maybe even physically imposing and possibly violent, but:

1. all facts disclosed to date show he was unarmed from the time he was on the street; and
2. he was shot with his arms raised in a defenseless position; and
3. no one called for an ambulance (only calls for crowd control) and he was left to die on the street for approx. 3 hours.

That is why we should be grateful for constitutional laws that hold local police to oversight/scrutiny and this should not happen in America, ever.

 

No, it's strong-arm robbery.

 

Clerk shouldn't have dressed the way he did.

 

The record keeping is the sticking point. The Daily Beast article already mentioned that an officer testified that he signed a report saying this person got blood on his uniform, then testified that he never had blood on his uniform. Let's go over that part.

To be fair, the Beast article does say that Davis' attorney believes that Thomas Jackson really wants to do the right thing.

But with that said, a department that does a poor job of keeping proper records is harder to give the benefit of the doubt.

Even so, Brown being suspected of robbery doesn't mean the officer should immediately assume Brown must be armed to the teeth.

 

Me as well.
This is turning into Tawana Brawley II for Rev Al.

What shocks me more is how few seem to care about the continued
gun violence in Chicago. To date in 2014 229 murders and 1254 shooting
incidents.

 

Do we know what the officer assumed/suspected after getting the call on the strong-arm robbery?

 

This is exactly why the police department should have been more forthcoming from day one, and exactly why the 24-hour news cycle sucks. Everyone has already picked sides and any new relevant information that comes out is going to be filtered through that.

It was fascinating to me today to see how many people were *certain* it wasn't Brown in the video when it was released.