Running NFL Preseason Thread

derwood · Mar 14, 2011

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There is no CBA.

MartinonMTV2 · Mar 14, 2011

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qtlaw said:

Michael_ Gee said:

The court HAS to go back and pick at the last CBA, unless the NFL issues new labor rules and salary structures during the lockout, because the CBA is what the players are suing to get thrown out. The court could uphold the CBA on the grounds the league's structure doesn't violate antitrust law, but it can't ignore it.
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I believe the players are contending that the collective declaration of a lockout is the anti-trust violation, not the CBA.

After skimming the complaint filed in the District Court, the allegations do cover the franchise tags as Anti-Trust violations, which in a pure setting, would be on their face violations since they are collective agreements designed to limit the free market for the services of each individual player.
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Even the draft does that, though. Of course, the idea is people play for a few years and get free agency.

qtlaw · Mar 14, 2011

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MartinonMTV2 said:

qtlaw said:

Michael_ Gee said:

The court HAS to go back and pick at the last CBA, unless the NFL issues new labor rules and salary structures during the lockout, because the CBA is what the players are suing to get thrown out. The court could uphold the CBA on the grounds the league's structure doesn't violate antitrust law, but it can't ignore it.
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I believe the players are contending that the collective declaration of a lockout is the anti-trust violation, not the CBA.

After skimming the complaint filed in the District Court, the allegations do cover the franchise tags as Anti-Trust violations, which in a pure setting, would be on their face violations since they are collective agreements designed to limit the free market for the services of each individual player.
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Even the draft does that, though. Of course, the idea is people play for a few years and get free agency.
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That's why Von Miller is a named plaintiff as well.

MartinonMTV2 · Mar 14, 2011

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qtlaw said:

MartinonMTV2 said:

qtlaw said:

Michael_ Gee said:

The court HAS to go back and pick at the last CBA, unless the NFL issues new labor rules and salary structures during the lockout, because the CBA is what the players are suing to get thrown out. The court could uphold the CBA on the grounds the league's structure doesn't violate antitrust law, but it can't ignore it.
Click to expand...

I believe the players are contending that the collective declaration of a lockout is the anti-trust violation, not the CBA.

After skimming the complaint filed in the District Court, the allegations do cover the franchise tags as Anti-Trust violations, which in a pure setting, would be on their face violations since they are collective agreements designed to limit the free market for the services of each individual player.
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Even the draft does that, though. Of course, the idea is people play for a few years and get free agency.
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That's why Von Miller is a named plaintiff as well.
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Except he is suing to prevent a rookie salary cap, if I remember correctly.

The attempts to undo elements of previous agreements are going to face an uphill battle.

derwood · Mar 14, 2011

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Why? Courts have always ruled in players favor.

MartinonMTV2 · Mar 14, 2011

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derwood said:

Why? Courts have always ruled in players favor.
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The players agreed to all of those things.

derwood · Mar 14, 2011

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That agreement expired last week and without one individual players can seek legal relief.

MartinonMTV2 · Mar 14, 2011

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derwood said:

That agreement expired last week and without one individual players can seek legal relief.
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They can seek it, but they won't get it on the counts of things they agreed to in the past.

The new things like a rookie salary cap might get rejected, though. This is the bargaining format right now, and apparently it will be for at least the next month.

Inky_Wretch · Mar 17, 2011

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Mike Silver writes about the NFL's communistic tendencies ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-how_to_run_a_business_communist_party_style_031711

MartinonMTV2 · Mar 17, 2011

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Inky_Wretch said:

Mike Silver writes about the NFL's communistic tendencies ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-how_to_run_a_business_communist_party_style_031711
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That was awful. The last three paragraphs could be the worst ever transmitted on the Internet.

outofplace · Mar 17, 2011

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Reads like something one of SportsJournalists.com's baseball apologists would write on a bad day.

YGBFKM · Mar 17, 2011

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Realistically, I’m not sure I have a deep understanding of any of these economic principles, so I’m going to stick with my initial assertion.
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If he's not on sj, he should be.

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