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Running NFL Preseason Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Herbert Anchovy, Feb 17, 2011.

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  1. derwood

    derwood Active Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    White Chocolate. Jason Williams.
     
    derwood, Aug 2, 2011
    #625
  2. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    You could make a pretty good argument that Moss was the greatest high school athlete ever.
     
    93Devil, Aug 2, 2011
    #626
  3. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    no you can't.

    There are guys who have been drafted in multiple sports and guys who have played pro in different sports. Moss was a phenomenal athlete but what about his HS career would make him the best?
     
    JC, Aug 2, 2011
    #627
  4. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    forget all the 'look who he played with arguments.' there is no question that moss made a habit of dogging it, which certainly is not a feature that contributes to his hof case. BUT -- and you knew the BUT was coming -- his amazing numbers in spite of this and impact on games he WAS interested in were so off-the-charts mind-blowing it will overcome the sentiment from those who'd like to hold him back 'to teach him a lesson.'

    yes, the football hof voting committee has a history of being dominated by bitter old hacks with agendas that veered far from the numers, but it's light years ahead of where it used to be.

    yet i suppose if enough voters take the 'no one gets through the first time on MY watch' approach, anything's possible. not that it means spit to me... first year, second year, who the eff really cares? it reflects more on the voters than the player when such a punitive approach rules the day...

    and believe me, it KILLS ME to in effect be taking randy's side here. so much about his 'act' repulses me. but that speaks volumes about his talents and production. egads....
     
    shockey, Aug 2, 2011
    #628
  5. derwood

    derwood Active Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    Holtz and Bowden will tell you that he is the best prep player that they scouted. Sadly, Lou obsession with Randy destroyed his relationship with Notre Dame.
     
    derwood, Aug 2, 2011
    #629
  6. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    Make it.
     
    JackReacher, Aug 2, 2011
    #630
  7. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    Winfield?
     
    Guy_Incognito, Aug 2, 2011
    #631
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    Bo Jackson
     
    heyabbott, Aug 2, 2011
    #632
  9. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    Dave Winfield.
     
    Mizzougrad96, Aug 2, 2011
    #633
  10. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    I'm a huge Randy Moss fanboi, but I do believe his "quitting" should be a mark against him in the vote. Quitting on the field is not "a personal issue." It's a professional one, and it affects on-field performance -- which is the, by far, the most important qualification of the Hall of Fame vote.

    I wouldn't have a problem if he failed to get in for one year because of that. Respectfully disagree, shockey. I don't look at the numbers and say, "Wow, look at what he did without trying sometimes." I say: "Jesus, imagine if he did try all the time."
     
    Elliotte Friedman, Aug 2, 2011
    #634
  11. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    Even so, you judge him on the numbers he DID put up. And those numbers are worthy of a first-ballot HOFer. That it's a question to some people amazes me.

    Who cares what he could have done if he tried harder? What he DID do was put up HOF numbers. Easy.

    When you look at his numbers, you shouldn't think "Wow. Look what he did without trying." And you shouldn't think "Man. Just imagine what he could have done if he tried." You look at them and think "Well, that's a HOFer." And, if you have a vote (and a shred of integrity), you check the YES box on the ballot. Or however they vote.
     
    JackReacher, Aug 2, 2011
    #635
  12. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Re: Running NFL Offseason Thread

    Moss...

    WV high school football player of the year - 1994
    WV high school basketball player of the year - 1993 and 1994
    as a sophomore, WV state champion in the 100 and 200 meter dashes
    and played centerfield on the baseball team (no idea how well)
     
    93Devil, Aug 2, 2011
    #636
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