Running NFL Preseason Thread

Care Bear · Aug 11, 2011

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Yeah, Orton is better than Romo?? Holy shit, I wish! I would probably consider a healthy Stafford over Orton, too.

Edit: just saw your response. You're crazy.

Seriously, you have to watch Orton play week after week. He makes you want to slap yourself.

JC · Aug 11, 2011

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MisterCreosote said:

JC said:

MisterCreosote said:

Looking at all the probable starters, it's about even between those I'd rather have than Orton, and those I wouldn't:

Better:
Tom Brady
Mark Sanchez
Joe Flacco
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Schaub
Peyton Manning
Matt Cassel
Philip Rivers
Eli Manning
Michael Vick
Jay Cutler
Aaron Rodgers
Donovan McNabb
Matt Ryan
Drew Brees
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford

Worse:
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Chad Henne
Carson Palmer/Andy Dalton
Colt McCoy
David Garrard/Blaine Gabbert
Matt Hasselbeck/Jake Locker
Jason Campbell
Tony Romo
Rex Grossman/John Beck
Matthew Stafford/Shaun Hill
Jimmy Clausen/Cam Newton
Kevin Kolb
Alex Smith
Tarvaris Jackson/Charlie Whitehurst
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In what possible world is Orton better than Romo? I'd also take Kolb and Hasselback over Orton.
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Just my preference. I said before that I don't think Orton singlehandedly loses games, but Romo sure does.

I'd have to revisit the Kolb choice after he gets a few more games under his belt.
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Orton over Romo is one of the more ridiculous things that has been said on this thread. The Broncos can't even get a 2nd round pick for Orton, look what Kolb was traded for.

Have any of you Orton lovers actually watched him play or do you just own him on your fantasy football teams?

JC · Aug 11, 2011

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MisterCreosote said:

I admit I've watched Romo far more than Orton. But, while Romo has flashes of brilliance, those are canceled out by the times he becomes a huge liability. He isn't exactly Joe Montana.

Just looked at their career stats, and Romo's are better, without question. But if I'm GM, Romo is just too erratic for my taste.
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that's fair, but he is miles ahead of Orton.

If the Cowboys put Romo on the market they would have no trouble getting a second rounder for him

shockey · Aug 11, 2011

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Mizzougrad96 said:

John Kasay's goodbye letter to Panther fans...

Dear Panther fans,

I wanted to personally write this letter to every Carolina Panther fan. Words cannot express how truly thankful my family and I are for the most wonderful 16 years of our lives.

We came to the Panthers as a young family with a 3-month-old baby. We leave with 4 children, 2 of whom are in high school. In between, you have loved and cheered and blessed us way more than we ever deserved. The only thing I could offer in return was the promise that I would try my best, every day, to make you proud.

Thank you for your encouragement when I failed. Thank you for the celebrations when we won. And most of all, thank you for letting me leave with a treasure trove of memories that time cannot erase.

It is my hope that the greatest years in Panthers history are still to come. A franchise decorated with numerous Lombardi Trophies. Dozens of Hall of Fame players. And a region that swells with pride whenever they speak of their beloved Panthers.

It has been a tremendous privilege to live in Charlotte, to play for the Carolina Panthers, and to be able to share my lifelong dream of playing in the NFL with all of you.

I pray that this will be a wonderful season and we will all get to watch the Panthers return to their rightful place as one of the most feared teams in the NFL.

May God bless you. Thank you again for the memories.

Blessings,

John Kasay
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no reaction required beyond, 'what a great letter.'

always nice when a player acknowledges the fans while exiting. even though many footballers don't consider kickers 'real' players.

Care Bear · Aug 11, 2011

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I attempted to resurrect the previous Brandon Marshall thread, but it was locked. New details from the police report -- I am not sure what to make of all this, but it certainly appears that two people are very lucky to be alive.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/police-bloody-knife-and-bloody-handgun-magazine-among-1727602.html

Boom_70 · Aug 11, 2011

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Care Bear said:

I attempted to resurrect the previous Brandon Marshall thread, but it was locked. New details from the police report -- I am not sure what to make of all this, but it certainly appears that two people are very lucky to be alive.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/police-bloody-knife-and-bloody-handgun-magazine-among-1727602.html
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Could have been 3 if you count 2 Brandon Marshall's.

Don't know why but I find it funny that Marshall has an
"Office" :
• A large Cuisinart kitchen knife with blood on the handle and blade was found on a table just outside of Marshall’s office.

Care Bear · Aug 11, 2011

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I wasn't going to say anything, but the "Brandon Marshall has an office?" question was probably my first thought.

shockey · Aug 11, 2011

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MisterCreosote said:

I admit I've watched Romo far more than Orton. But, while Romo has flashes of brilliance, those are canceled out by the times he becomes a huge liability. He isn't exactly Joe Montana.

Just looked at their career stats, and Romo's are better, without question. But if I'm GM, Romo is just too erratic for my taste.
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even as a cowboys 'hatah,' i'm both amazed by and disagree with the over-the-top criticism romo receives. guess that comes with the territory for high-profile players on 'america's team,' who are immediately overrated by their fans and underrated by hatahs.

the guy's a very good qb. markedly better than orton. i almost root for the cowboys to win a playoff game so romo can get that monkey off his back

i said 'almost.' i haven't yet TOTALLY lost my mind... eff the cowboys. as one of the jets' scab players said in '87 going into a strike game vs. dallas: 'i hate those effin' cowboys.' 'twas one of the most hysterical quotes during that three-game stretch...we didn't have the heart to tell 5-8 wideout john fuocco, straight off the streets of the bronx, that those weren't the REAL effin' cowboys....

good times.

93Devil · Aug 11, 2011

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Boom_70 said:

Care Bear said:

I attempted to resurrect the previous Brandon Marshall thread, but it was locked. New details from the police report -- I am not sure what to make of all this, but it certainly appears that two people are very lucky to be alive.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/police-bloody-knife-and-bloody-handgun-magazine-among-1727602.html
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Could have been 3 if you count 2 Brandon Marshall's.

Don't know why but I find it funny that Marshall has an
"Office" :
A large Cuisinart kitchen knife with blood on the handle and blade was found on a table just outside of Marshalls office.
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Were the cuts on the wrist on the inside or the outside of the arm?

Did this thing escalate into him trying to kill himself?

outofplace · Aug 11, 2011

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93Devil said:

I like Orton as well. He is probably better than 10-12 of the guys who will be trotted out there on Sept. 11th to start.

And how about this... Orton would be the third-best quarterback to start for the Steelers in the last 40 years if he started opening day for Pittsburgh.
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But Mark Malone was a better receiver than Orton could ever be.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Aug 11, 2011

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93Devil said:

I like Orton as well. He is probably better than 10-12 of the guys who will be trotted out there on Sept. 11th to start.

And how about this... Orton would be the third-best quarterback to start for the Steelers in the last 40 years if he started opening day for Pittsburgh.
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Oh hell no!
Better than than Stoudt, Strock, and Malone? Yeah.
Better than Bubby? Oh Hell No.
Better than Stewart or Gilliam? On par.

Steak Snabler · Aug 11, 2011

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Four minutes into the first preseason game, and the Seahawks' starting left tackle (Russell Okung) is about to be carted off the field. Oy ...

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