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Running NHL 2023-24 regular season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Regan MacNeil, Oct 10, 2023.

  1. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Problems that doomed Winnipeg Jets in 1996 loom large again in 2024

    Have seen a couple of stories this week in The Athletic about the trouble Winnipeg is facing again. Sounds like their current season-ticket/attendance trajectory, coupled with a weak Canadian dollar, are putting them on the brink of moving once again.
     
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  2. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    Thank you for sharing.
    Have respected Eric Duhatschek's work for many years.
     
  3. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    Tweet of the year right here:

     
  4. misterbc

    misterbc Well-Known Member

    I’m not a Bettman fan but he and Daly flew to Winnipeg and he stated that Winnipeg was a strong market for the league, a model franchise, and he was confident they would rebound attendance wise. Doesn’t sound like the NHL is going to put it on life support anytime soon. The city has been set back by the stupid fucking federal government chasing business out of Canada for reasons nobody knows. Lots of those companies who have left shipped through Winnipeg, had branches in Winnipeg and, don’t forget, most of the affordability issues in Canada are directly the result of the unbelievably mis managed Canadian economy, and thus our currency, and because we import so many things that were once made in this country. Canada should be one of the most prosperous countries in the world but instead we are the laughingstock. All my fellow Canucks on this site will agree.
     
  5. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    No, we won’t. There is very few things accurate in this post.
     
  6. misterbc

    misterbc Well-Known Member

    I guess my relatives who live in Winnipeg don’t know what they are talking about, or the currency traders I know in Toronto who all know the reasons for our weak dollar. The Bettman quote is on the NHL website.
    That’s 3 for 3.
     
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2024
  7. Sea Bass

    Sea Bass Well-Known Member

    The last sentence is a bit presumptuous I’d say.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    If you are a currency trader, CAD has been the gift that keeps giving. :)

    And yeah, it also is a big part of why Winnipeg's hockey team is kind of doomed. The NHL really vividly illustates how shitting all over the currency (for a series of sugar highs) hurts Canada in the long run. While the U.S. is guilty of the same thing, it becomes a "cleaner shirt in the hamper" thing where you are forced to look at the two countries relative to each other; the NHL allows you to see the effects of a weaker currency on Canada.

    In Winnipeg, they have to sell tickets and merchandise into an increasingly deppressed market and get Canadian dollars in return. But because the NHL has American teams, they need to pay the players in much stronger dollars. On the balance sheet, that has created about a 25 percent loss over the last decade that exacerbates their problems. It hurts Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver too, but they have much stronger fan bases, so even though they are like salmon swimming up stream, they can still make good money (just not as good as they would be earning without the currency headwind). It's killing Winnipeg, though.
     
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2024
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  9. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    You’re correct here, they don’t.
     
  10. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    I don't pretend to know much about the Canadian economy (or much of anything!) but Gary Bettman is such a shitheel, even by commissioner standards, that absolutely no one should believe him when he says he doesn't want to relocate a Canadian team. He spent the first half of his potentially endless run as commissioner moving teams from Canada and northern hockey-happy cities so that he could fulfill his stupid fantasy of filling southern markets with hockey. The world has made it abundantly fucking clear that Arizona and Atlanta aren't hockey markets but by God he's just gonna keep shoving teams in there. Bettman is so bad that Kevin Spacey wishes he didn't look like him.
     
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  11. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    I've followed hockey for nearly 50 years and never seen an ending like last night Devils-Ducks game.



    It's 4-3 Ducks. Devils have the goalie out and are pushing for the tying goal. Big pileup in front of the goal. Ducks goalie Lukas Dostal is in the middle of it. He gets knocked down, but bats the puck behind the net. His mask comes off. Looks like it came loose when he was bumped and he pushed it off himself. Meanwhile, Ducks winger Frank Vatrano pushes the net off the anchors. There are 2.1 seconds left. Vatrano's play is stupid because the puck was behind the net. The whistle should have been blown because Dostal's mask was off. Ref finally blows it dead and awards the Devils a penalty shot. Jack Hughes takes it. He gets too close to Dostal, who tries a poke check but misses. Hughes pulls the puck back to avoid the poke check and loses control.
     
  12. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    Besides the crazy ending, Dostal had 52 saves in the game. Quite a night for the young goaltender!
     
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