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Running Primaries Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chi City 81, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    You won't hear much about it, but Obama netted +7 delegates out of the Iowa county conventions today -- the equivalent of winning a medium-sized state.

    She ain't catching him.
     
  2. I saw that.
    It took me three times through the story to figure out how it worked.
    Still won't stick.
    PA remains the key.
     
  3. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    Still swallowing that meme, eh?
     
  4. Ain't a meme.
    It's a frame.
    And it's the way the whole thing is going to be sold by the folks in our biz.
    Wait and see if I'm not right.
     
  5. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    And it's utter bullshit. She. Cannot. Catch. Him. Even if she wins every state 65-35 from now on, she won't pass him until Puerto Rico. Ain't gonna happen, my friend. I don't care what Misters Penn, Wolfson and Ickes say.
     
  6. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    Moving on ... here's Obama today in Indiana:

    "Let me just close my initial remarks by talking about bringing this country together. You know, Bobby Kennedy gave one of his most — gave one of his most famous speeches on a dark night in Indianapolis. Right after Dr. King was shot. Some of you remember reading about this speech. Some of you were alive when this speech was given. He stood on top of a car. He was in a crowd mostly of African Americans. And he delivered the news that Dr. King had been shot and killed. And he said, at that moment of anguish, he said, we’ve got a choice. He said, we’ve got a choice in taking the rage and bitterness and disappointment and letting it fester and dividing us further so that we no longer see each other as Americans but we see each other as separate and apart and at odds with each other. Or we can take a different path that says we have different stories, but we have common dreams and common hopes. And we can decide to walk down this road together. And remake America once again. And, you know, I think about those words often, especially in the last several weeks - because this campaign started on the basis that we are one America. As I said in my speech at the convention in 2004, there is no Black America, or White America, or Asian America, or Latino America. There is the United States of America. But I noticed over the last several weeks that the forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again. And I’m not here to cast blame or point fingers because everybody, you know, senses that there’s been this shift. You know, that you’ve been seeing in the reporting. You’ve been seeing some of the commentaries of supporters on all sides. Most recently, you heard some statements from my former pastor that were incendiary and that I completely reject, although I knew him and know him as somebody in my church who talked to me about Jesus and family and friendships, but clearly had — but if all I knew was those statements that I saw on television, I would be shocked. And it just reminds me that we’ve got a tragic history when it comes to race in this country. We’ve got a lot of pent-up anger and bitterness and misunderstanding. But what I continue to believe in is that this country wants to move beyond these kinds of divisions. That this country wants something different.

    I just want to say to everybody here that as somebody who was born into a diverse family, as somebody who has little pieces of America all in me, I will not allow us to lose this moment, where we cannot forget about our past and not ignore the very real forces of racial inequality and gender inequality and the other things that divide us. I don’t want us to forget them. We have to acknowledge them and lift them up and when people say things like my former pastor said, you know, you have to speak out forcefully against them. But what you also have to do is remember what Bobby Kennedy said. That it is within our power to join together to truly make a United States of America. And that we have to do not just so that our children live in a more peaceful country and a more peaceful world, but that is the only way that we are going to deliver on the big issues that we’re facing in this country. We can’t solve health care divided. We cannot create an economy that works for everybody divided. We can’t fight terrorism divided. We can’t care for our veterans divided. We have to come together. That’s what this campaign is about. That’s why you are here. That’s why we’re going to win this election. That’s how we’re going to change the country."
     
  7. She doesn't have to "catch him."
    All she has to do is hang in there until the convention.
    And that speech, while lovely, is lost on two-thirds of the people who heard it.
    The people he's running against have no interest in uniting the USA unless they still get to run it.
    And somebody shot Bobby Kennedy in the head.
     
  8. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    If you're so down on Obama, why are you still supporting him? He won't win Pennsylvania. I'd bet a year's pay on it. So why doesn't he just drop out now?

    I swear, half the time I can't figure out where you stand.
     
  9. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    I find it hilarious that you still are flying the flag for the Clintons -- I know, I know, you CLAIM to be an Obama supporter yet your true colors always shine through on every post you make -- even though Hillary, once it was discovered that she couldn't win, has turned to the same racial playbook that Jesse Helms used in his last Senate race to beat the black Democrat (name escapes me).

    I mean, Democrats should be disgusted by Hillary's actions here, they are racist and she is being allowed to get away with it because of her last name.

    Of course, if McCain uses similar strategies -- having underlings float things out there to paint Obama as the black candidate -- you'll be on here starting threads with links to media matters insisting that he apologize for being a racist......

    This campaign began as a campaign of two intelligent candidates with good ideas who were fighting an honorable fight. Then the ice queen started to lose and we saw exactly who her and her husband really are and what they are really motivated by and it clearly ain't what's best for America.....
     
  10. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    Let it be knows, Fenian: I reject and denounce the previous post.
     
  11. "Reject and renounce" is the only legitimately funny catchphrase to come out of the campaign.
    I am down on Obama, to the extent that I am, which is not very, for a couple of reasons that pale against the necessity of not electing the More War, More Tax Cuts economic dunderhead on the other side. On pure policy, his economic team makes me a little nervous, as did his remarks about SS earlier in the campaign. I'm not sure how committed he is to rolling back the constitutional damage done by the Fred crew over the past seven years. "Let us move ahead together" is not enough. It's a recipe for amnesia that guarantees someone comes along and does something worse a few years down the line. (c.f. Iran-Contra.) There need to be some prosecutions and some investigations and some closure, bloody though it may be. I wonder if he really wants to do any of that. And, as a corollary, I don't believe he recognizes the towering bad-faith with which he will be received the minute his hand comes off the Bible. I think he's committed to convincing people who will not be convinced to do anything that doesn't serve their ideology, and I'm concerned that, in trying to do things in a way that the Beltway cognoscenti call "bipartisan," President Obama will oversee the center slipping slowly to the right.
    And that "Joe Lieberman is my mentor" thing makes me nervous.
    And the campaign itself has proven to be rather thin-skinned. The Samantha Power thing was a very bad moment.
     
  12. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Samantha, of course, was correct.
     
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