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Running Primaries Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chi City 81, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Not quite. Obama is running far less on his biograph(y)[ies] than on his charisma and the fact that he's the only non-Huck candidate who can give a decent speech. McCain is running on his resume/record far more than Huckabee.
     
    Guy_Incognito, Feb 10, 2008
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  2. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    Speaking of dirty pool:

    http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=65ed7d1f-b586-40d0-bc4c-48292494d4ef
    http://blog.brendanloy.com/2008/02/hillarys-plan-t.html
     
    TrooperBari, Feb 10, 2008
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  3. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    I've yet to read Obama's books, but I have compared him on the issues and on character compared to the Clintons. And based on that, without having read his book, there's no question I would vote for Obama in the general election. If you watched his speech in Virginia last night, it sounds like he's heard the complaints that he's all utopia, because he packed that speech with policy.
     
    Oz, Feb 11, 2008
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  4. Fenian_Bastard

    Fenian_Bastard Guest

    Here's the guy who's screwing the Huck in Washington.
    http://www.wsrp.org/About/Default.aspx?SectionID=114

    And you just knew this was going to come out:
    "...former sports writer and member of the Pro Football Writers of America."
     
    Fenian_Bastard, Feb 11, 2008
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  5. Fenian_Bastard

    Fenian_Bastard Guest

    More of it:
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004175292_webhuckabee10.html

    "As close to 100 percent as possible"?
    Mighty neighborly of you, hack.
     
    Fenian_Bastard, Feb 11, 2008
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That story made it sound like a pack of lawyers on horses are steaming full speed ahead through the great plains on a mission for Washington state.

    Huckabee really should just give it up. This isn't buying him any leverage for anything and it ultimately isn't going to hurt McCain much. It's just making him look bad. What is the end game here?
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 11, 2008
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  7. EStreetJoe

    EStreetJoe Well-Known Member

    Will his Grammy win mean more votes in the primaries?

     
    EStreetJoe, Feb 11, 2008
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  8. Fenian_Bastard

    Fenian_Bastard Guest

    This is much more like it.

    “Of course President Bush would attack the one candidate in this race who opposed his disastrous war in Iraq from the start. But Barack Obama doesn’t need any foreign policy advice from the architect of the worst foreign policy decision in a generation,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.
     
    Fenian_Bastard, Feb 11, 2008
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  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    He should keep repeating that line like a sledgehammer. It's his most effective selling point and can boost the young, disaffected base that has been driving his candidacy. I watched Obama and Clinton back-to-back on 60 Minutes yesterday. I don't see major differences in the government you will get from either. People are being swayed by style, not substance.

    On style, I can't separate my intense dislike for her from how I perceive the two of them, so take this for what it's worth... But she comes off to me as one of those old Politburo members waiting for a turn to gain control of the Kremlin, while he has been able to position himself as new and different. I actually was looking at all the makeup caked onto her jowels and envisioning Leonid Breshnev underneath it... I think those perceptions are exaggerated beyond reality, but they are still the perceptions I think a lot of people have. It's why he matches up so much better with McCain than she does. There are some people who will never vote for her under any circumstances.

    She came off fairly well in her interview (I tried to take a step away from the TV and stop punching her in the face long enough to evaluate the interview fairly), but the Iraq question is where she really stumbles when you put her side-by-side with Obama. He's able to say "You created the Bush monster by voting to authorize... blah blah blah" and she is doing double-speak about "what we knew at the time... blah blah blah. She sounds way too nuanced and scripted on many things and that is the worst example. It's the one area he really can paint a big difference between the two that I think resonates with a lot of the Democratic base. He hasn't had to be "nuanced" the way she is, which is where the Democrats often fail, because he is not getting hammered on his record. So he's able to speak in platitudes and just give inspirational speeches which stir up more younger voters. What he's been doing is working well.
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 11, 2008
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  10. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Should she sweep Texas, Ohio and Pennsy, she may not have to resort to this.

    The arkward moments will come, should BO indeed sweep the rest of this month, in better-than-expected fashion, thus throwing tons of coal on the momentum fire and actually throwing Texas and Ohio into serious doubt.

    Then, if she is indeed planning on staging the biggest of dirty tricks (and woundn't be surprised in the least, if it comes to that . . . ), her challenge will be to do so while appearing to act openly and above-board.

    Lots of luck, with that. You'll be able to hear the screaming (from both sides) in the Ukraine.
     
    Ben_Hecht, Feb 11, 2008
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  11. D-Backs Hack

    D-Backs Hack Guest

    Krugman's latest, which I agree with some, but not all, of:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

     
    D-Backs Hack, Feb 11, 2008
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  12. Fenian_Bastard

    Fenian_Bastard Guest

    I agree with some, not all, too, Joe.
     
    Fenian_Bastard, Feb 11, 2008
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