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Running Primaries Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chi City 81, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    At the caucus I went to, I heard nothing of the sort from any Obama people -- and there were a lot there, with him beating Hillary 435-139. Everyone there said they would support whoever wins nomination.
     
  2. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    –In my opinion, he has shown himself to be a sexist and a misogynist. He’s a stereotypical kind of male. NO woman should be supporting him. After all is said and done, I doubt many women would in the general election.

    # paddy4Hill Says:
    February 11th, 2008 at 9:27 am

    Nikki22,

    yes, Hillary should have the most unless they try to cheat us out of FL and MI. So all this should be moot. But that is the point. Those guys are turning out to be bigger crooks than little Bush and his pirates. They will try to rip off Fl and MI. But then they will lose the election. What a bunch of dopes!


    Idunn Says:
    February 11th, 2008 at 10:01 am

    Good morning.

    I’m irritated to the point of pulling my hair out.

    We really need to just start punching and end this thing now. If I even have to look at Bambi one more time, I’m going to lose it. If I hear the words “hope” “change”, “and “unity” one more time I am going to pour draino in my ears! And if have to try to inject one more ounce of reason into the minds of americans, I will pull out a gun and blow my own friggin’ head off!


    # TPS Says:
    February 11th, 2008 at 10:02 am

    nikki22, with Obama on the ticket there is real danger we will lose New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Michigan, Wisconsin, and New Mexico among the states Kerry won in 2004. Obama does not bring any new state into play.


    SpacegirlArt Says:
    February 11th, 2008 at 10:51 am

    TheREalist “We will prevail. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy and this is the single most worthwhile endeavor many of us will ever participate in. Our nation’s future is at stake in many ways and on many levels. We don’t just WANT Hillary to be 44, we NEED it.”


    All examples from today from hillaryis44

    Krugman.Is.Wrong.
     
  3. Let's see.
    Anonymous blogposters on a site I've never heard of, or this:

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/01/629273.aspx

    Which worries me more?
     
  4. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    I call 'em as I see 'em
     
  5. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    And that's well and good, but lets remember what we were discussing.

    I won’t try for fake evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody.

    He's wrong. Simple as that. Go ahead and say it. It's a wonderful feeling, truly.
     
  6. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    I'm with you on this. Now, if Obama people said they wouldn't vote for Hillary because they saw spots like this, I would understand that completely ...

     
  7. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Gawd, is that cringe-worthy.

    So lame...
     
  8. He's not wrong. Not entirely. There is a fervor, most of it understandable, about 4the Obama folks that has translated into a terrific campaign, and some of which has translated into the kind of groupthink paranoia we saw out of the Arkansas project in the 1990's. I have no doubt that his mail reflects that.
     
  9. Italian_Stallion

    Italian_Stallion Active Member

    I'll echo some of what Ragu said (words I never thought I'd say). I think lots of voters are opposed to Hillary because she's the reason they don't vote. These are the folks who voted for Ross Perot and a host of other candidates. They feel that they've been shut out of the system in the past by the Democratic base, and they see this as their chance to gain a voice in Washington.
     
  10. There are dozens of good reasons to vote for Obama.
    Hillary Is The Devil is not one of them.
     
  11. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Well, if he's writing about his own mail, then, I guess, perhaps, he has a point.

    Now, the interesting questions become why the NYT pays him to write about his mail and what about his past columns might lead him to get a higher level of venom from Obama supporters.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    "Hillary is the devil" isn't the reason a lot of people will vote for him. It's the reason some of the people who love him won't vote for her. There's a big difference.
     
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