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Running Primaries Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chi City 81, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. Fudgie the Whale

    Fudgie the Whale Guest

    Oh, OK. I will. Sorry.
     
    Fudgie the Whale, Feb 12, 2008
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  2. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member


    The story was written by an African-American supporter of Barack Obama who is (apparently) on the newspaper's editorial board.

    Now, why don't you explain what the big story is here? That Rendell would make an honest assessment about racism in rural Pennsylvania?

    The only "fault" involved is the decision to try and make a racial issue out of a comment like that.
     
    cranberry, Feb 12, 2008
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  3. zeke12

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    Why would Rendell, unprompted, credit part of his victory margin to racism?

    Where is the benefit in that to him?
     
    zeke12, Feb 12, 2008
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  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    He's a former DNC chairman and a prominent Clinton supporter. When the former DNC chairman claims that some whites won't vote for a black guy, and his party is down to a two-person run off between a candidate he ardently supports and has traded political favors with, and another candidate who is um, a black guy, it's not fair to construe it as him trying to mobilize the party against the black guy by implying he doesn't stand a chance?

    At the very least, others aren't trying to turn it into a racial issue. Rendell brought race into it.

    I suppose it could just be his honest assessment.
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 12, 2008
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  5. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Absolving Rendell from what?
     
    cranberry, Feb 12, 2008
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  6. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    I don't know the context of the quote (the writer didn't provide any), nor do I see any advantage or disadvantage to be taken from it.
     
    cranberry, Feb 12, 2008
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  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    He's one of Hillary Clinton's most prominent supporters. And he implied the guy opposing her doesn't stand a chance because he's black.

    Take a guess what the advantage is and to whom.
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 12, 2008
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  8. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    So, do you think Rendell just walks around telling people, "Hey, if it weren't for bigots, I'd have been in a much closer race last time,"?

    I mean, you really think he just said that to a group of newspaper folks without any consideration as to its impact on any upcoming political races?

    Just wanted to offer that nugget up, completely out of the blue?
     
    zeke12, Feb 12, 2008
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  9. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Political analysis has involved understanding voting patterns -- including race, gender, age, etc. -- as long as I've been voting (since 1976). We also don't know that it was Rendell who "brought up" the topic. The story doesn't make that clear.

    Whether you like it or not, voting patterns among race and gender are going to be examined very carefully when you have a primary that will result in an historic first for either the black candidate or the female candidate.
     
    cranberry, Feb 12, 2008
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  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    He's the former DNC chairman... His whole job used to be spinning things to the message he wants. He knew exactly what he was saying. Even if he "understands voting patterns," Rendell has impact by what he chooses to say and what he chooses not to say. Given who he is, how politically savvy (and slimy) he is, and how ham-handed and blatant about trying to do damage to the guy running against his woman he was, no one in their right mind can actually believe he was innocently giving his "honest assessment" and he didn't mean to say to Democrats, "Don't support the black guy. He doesn't stand a chance!"
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 12, 2008
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  11. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    As I mentioned, we don't know the context of the quote because the writer failed to provide it. Anything else is pure conjecture, which you haven't hesitated to provide.
     
    cranberry, Feb 12, 2008
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  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    cran, on one thread you are implying that Kurt Radomski is akin to Jose Cansco and that he's angling for a book deal, even though there is nothing suggesting he wants any attention, let alone a book deal... and on another thread you won't acknowledge the obvious intent (to most people, at least) of Rendell's remarks and you're writing off the obvious as "pure conjecture."

    You have an interesting way of seeing the world.
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 12, 2008
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