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Running Primaries Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chi City 81, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    Courtesy of the Hawaii Democrats page:

     
  2. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    In the words of John McCain, "my friends, that's what I call an ass whipping"
     
  3. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I think the central problem with the Hillary campaign is that they are looking at the situation and acting as if the voters are wrong when they should be looking in a mirror. The voters aren't suddenly going to wake up one day and say "Wow, Hillary really is a great candidate." Her campaign needs to pull its collective head out of its ass and do a better job selling Hillary. She's running a generic campaign.
    Even Paul Begala was saying they should have launched the campaign with a biographical ad re-introducing Hillary to the public as her own person. I still don't think I "know" who she is and why she thinks what she thinks or what experiences in her life transformed her into who she is today. That's basic stuff.
    Another small thing, she usually uses the pronoun "I" in her speeches. Barack frequently uses "we."
    Her campaign can try to bring Barack down with attack ads and such, but it's not going to make people want to vote for HRC.
    Maybe Obama won't be as good of a president as Hillary would be, but I think his shorter resume offers a bigger "upside," to use a sports cliche, than Hillary's does.
    Aloha Obama, Aloha Hillary.
     
  4. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    Look, the Democrats pick their candidate on the basis of the newcomer who gives the best convention speech. That person gets it in four years.

    Maybe I should say "most notable speech" because in 1988, Clinton's sure was crap, but it got him on the late night circuit.
     
  5. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    From the HI Dems site:

    With about 40% of Congressional District One reporting, ballots cast in the district are reported as follows:

    Barack Obama 4,302
    Hillary Clinton 1,542
    Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards received votes falling far short of the 15% required to be allocated a delegate.

    With about 20% of Congressional district Two reporting, ballots cast in the district are reported as follows:

    Barack Obama 1,134
    Hillary Clinton 333
     
  6. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    For those wondering, CD 1 is urban Honolulu and CD 2 is everyone else in the state.

    Local election workers are saying turnout is 20 times normal levels.
     
  7. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Sway-In-The-Wind Matthews' assignment is to dig up all the significant Senate legislation with HRC's name on it, and get back to me.

    I have all day.
     
  8. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    I thought HRC was supposed to be a CEO-type president -- and yet she can't even get a full slate of delegates on the ballot in PA?

    As that great philosopher says, "D'oh!"

    http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/15759032.html
     
  9. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Welllll, ya know, they figured they'd have it all wrapped up, two weeks ago . . .

    Details, details . . .
     
  10. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Halfway home in Hawai'i...

    51% reporting
    Barack Obama 11,691 76%
    Hillary Clinton 3584 23%

    Aloha, you beautiful island folk.
     
  11. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    Aloha yourself, haole boy. :D

    Update with 68% of all precincts reporting:

    Congressional District One:

    Barack Obama 7,698 73.898%
    Hillary Clinton 2,649 25.430%

    Congressional District Two:

    Barack Obama 13,276 75.850%
    Hillary Clinton 3,880 22.168%

    That's 20,974 to Obama and 6,529 for Clinton if you're scoring at home.
     
  12. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    With 100% of precincts reporting:

    Congressional District One: total votes: 15,550

    Barack Obama 11,536 74.19%
    Hillary Clinton 3,925 25.24%

    Congressional District Two: total votes: 21,876

    Barack Obama 16,811 76.85%
    Hillary Clinton 4,910 22.44%

    That's 28,347 to Obama (75.74 percent) and 8,835 (23.60 percent) to Clinton -- should be 15 delegates for Obama and five for Clinton, though that won't be official until March 1 or so.
     
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