Running Primaries Thread

Righty grenade throwing, at its very best.

 

This is why I could only chuckle at the hand-wringing -- Bill Clinton said that Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice! It's the most racist thing ever! -- from the Obama folks.

Thom Hartmann, one of the few sane talk-radio voices on either side of the political spectrum, said it best early in the campaign: "If you think race and gender are issues now, just wait until the Republicans get their hands on the nominee."

 

Meanwhile, Straight Talkin' St. John stood right there on the steps of the Exeter Town Hall and promised that he would chase Osama "through the gates of hell."
Apparently, unless those gates are located in Pakistan.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/20/685452.aspx

 

I'll chase him round the moons of Nibia and round the Antares maelstrom and round perdition's flame before I give him up!

 

You and I are both better than that.

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And I know you know better than this, but I don't blame you for trying to slip it through:

The Chinese dishwashers, the fugitive fundraiser, the way they punked Obama and Edwards in Michigan and Florida, the use of Corleone-style henchmen to "push a button" on almost all of the most distasteful episodes of the campaign so far. And now, the 527 gearing up to slime Obama in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Texas.

No, she hasn't DONE anything that's out of bounds. But that claim hinges on, oddly enough, what the meaning of the word DONE is.

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The thing that has always troubled me about the Clinton twins – and I tumbled to this early on but it took a lot of time to understand the implications of it – is that they think they're so damned smart. And they tend to attract people who, in turn, think they're so damned smart.

That's really the story of this race. They thought they had it all figured out yet were slow, shockingly slow, to adjust to the situation on the ground.

They've run the perfect campaign ... for 2004.

Only one problem with that, as far as I can see.

 

"The Chinese dishwashers, the fugitive fundraiser, the way they punked Obama and Edwards in Michigan and Florida, the use of Corleone-style henchmen to "push a button" on almost all of the most distasteful episodes of the campaign so far. And now, the 527 gearing up to slime Obama in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Texas."

Oh, come on. The "fugitive fundraiser"? And this comes back to her, how?
Have you watched the 527 ad? "He gives speeches, not programs." Wow. What a haymaker. A lame-ass trope that's already proven ineffective in at least two states. How ever will Senator Obama ever recover from this? "Corleone-style" henchmen? None of this is within hailing distance of tough politics, let alone sleazy politics, and a lot of it, such as the Jesse Jackson comment, was hyped beyond all reason by a truly awful national press corps. If this is the best the D's can do for nut-cutting, they're really in trouble.
I swear I think some people are completely convinced that Obama is made of candy glass. (HT to Ainsley Hayes).

 

Sorry . . . I went off when I heard Bill ringing in Jesse in the wake of the South Carolina vote. Clearly, I wasn't alone. It was not an overreaction. The ploy was 'way out of bounds. I understand why BC said it -- he hoped it would
serve as a stiletto through a ribcage. But all it did was make him look pathetic and desperate.

It was even more telling that HE said it. She didn't have the nerve. But nerve, he's got.

 

I think everyone, including you, overreacted to that episode. I also think that the commentary on the Hildebeast on this site has gotten progressively more unhinged.

 

Which one is the one about duty?

 

My understanding of the Clinton comment about Jackson is that it was meant to indicate that black candidates fare well in SC due to the state's black population. How is that any different than the analysis that women flocked to Hillary in NH?

 

They're all about duty.

 

I took it as a deliberate minimalization of Obama's established presence in the race,
by a tag-team member.

Fascinatingly, it only took 72 hours to demonstrate what a sorry attempt that was, by ol' 42.