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Running Primaries Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chi City 81, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. GB-Hack

    GB-Hack Active Member

    NBC gives the Texas Primary to Clinton.
     
  2. suburbia

    suburbia Active Member

    It's not a matter of the Dem base voting for a Republican. It's whether or not part of the Dem base stays home. This is potentially a big issue, especially if Obama doesn't get the nomination and black voters feel like they got screwed by the white establishment once again (think Al Sharpton & friends wouldn't milk that one?).
     
  3. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    NBC has BYH syndrome. HRC's ahead 50-48% with 73% of precincts reporting. That's not counting caucus totals.
     
  4. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    But what if the base simply doesn't show up?

    That may be a danger for McCain's chances, depending on who is nominated on the Dem side.
     
  5. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    The base will vote, because the base is involved and paying attention. They can't help it. They're like the readers who write you again and again to say that they've canceled their subscription, hate your guts and will never read your biased shit again.

    The base is always going to pay attention to this stuff. And if they're paying attention come general election campaign time, they'll hear the guy from the other party, they'll think he's a stark-raving lunatic and they'll take their ass to the booth to vote against him. It might not be a vote for Obama/Clinton, but it will get the same result.
     
  6. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    The dems will be getting all the face time from here to the convention. No one will give two you-know-whats about McCain until it's time for the national. That's got to help the dems, right?
     
  7. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    John McCain will now quickly become known as the old guy spouting the same old, tired GOP lines.

    People don't want to be very afraid anymore -- they want to live their lives and build a better future. And we will laugh very hard when he talks about big-government Democrats who will spend too much.
     
  8. Have to give it up to Jones. I was wrong, dude.
    The John McCain Drinking Game has to be to take a slug every time he says, "My friends."
    Now, it's off to the WH for another ardent embrace from President 19 Percent. Have a nice day, ya crazy old coot!
     
  9. jagtrader

    jagtrader Active Member

    Here's the thing: People like McCain. Moderates will overlook some of his conservative bullshit rhetoric because they respect his service in the Senate and, obviously, the military.

    If Clinton wins the nomination, it will be through a brokered convention. That's the only path at this point. She won't emerge from that and win the general. Half the country already despises her. It remains to be seen how much damage is done to Obama between now and then. But as we saw last night, people buy a lot of the negative nonsense thrown at him. Especially people with lower income and education levels.

    Long story short: Clinton will have trouble getting Obama's coalition in the general -- specifically blacks (who may not vote). Obama will have trouble with the blue-collar demographic in some key states. There's a divide here and it's only going to get worse.
     
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Yes - without a doubt it will.

    Obama and Clinton will have to articulate their positions on various issues against each other and not McCain.
    McCain can just stay in holding pattern until the fall.
     
  11. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    The big-spending line was retired by drunken-sailor Reagan, actually. The GOP can't use it with a straight face, anymore, unless they're addressing addled idiots.
     
  12. jboy

    jboy Guest

    There will blood, but Obama will emerge as the nominee. I wish I could go into a time machine and fast forward to May 1, but unfortunately technology isn't quite there yet. Until then I have to listen to all this crap, as much as I try to avoid it all.

    It's mathematically impossible for Hillary to win it on votes/delegates straight up. The only way is for the Super Delegates to give it to her which will not happen because it's politically stupid. These are politicians, remember, and they ultimately want to win. Gotta think one of the grand poobahs of the Democratic party will step in and do something - but, then again, maybe not.

    In the end I really think this is going to make Obama a better, toughter candidate. Every one of Clinton's attacks will be brought up by McCain, except Obama will be ready for it when it comes in the general.

    So rejoice Hillary haters! You still have another 6-8 weeks of Hillary bashing. Get it while you can!
     
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