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Running Primaries Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chi City 81, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. Can I have some?
     
  2. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Outing alert: Fenian is Mark Penn.
     
  3. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Hear, hear.
     
  4. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    Interesting that the SportsJournalists.com republicans seem to be rooting for Obama.
     
  5. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Ideologically, there are reasons they should be more comfortable.

    In terms of seeking an easier path for McCain, it's difficult to fanthom.

    Led by Lee Atwater's shining example, the GOP thugs could play race games AGAINST McCain in 2000, as they have against earlier Dem prez candidates. They'll find it tougher to do it to a black candidate, directly.
     
  6. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Heh.

    ''Rick Lazio can't explain why it took three months to release his taxes,'' said Howard Wolfson, a Clinton campaign spokesman. ''Now he won't come clean with New Yorkers and reveal the real cost of his reckless trillion-dollar tax plan. It's time for Mr. Lazio to stop playing games and start talking straight.''

    That's Clinton staffer Howard "Sweater" Wolfson, blasting Rick Lazio for taking THREE WHOLE MONTHS! to release his taxes in 2000.

    HRC's returns remain at large.
     
  7. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Given where we are on the calendar, she has every right to be dragging her heels re her current ('07) return.

    But there's no goddamn reason why the public has yet to be treated to a view of her 2006 return.

    Well . . . there probably IS . . . but that's another story . . .
     
  8. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Agreed. But, as soon as you loan your campaign money, you have to be prepared to do that.

    I'm not even convinced that there's anything THAT interesting in there. But it's more of the same lack of transparency.

    Anyone think that the fact that it's a joint return is the biggest stalling point, here?
     
  9. zeke -- You really are arguing in the Whitewater frame. Can you not see that? Get tough with her without getting petty. For example, hit her for enabling this.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/world/middleeast/07iraq.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
     
  10. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    No, I'm really not.

    She's under no obligation to release her taxes. But if she's going to loan her campaign money -- and if she's going to demand that previous opponents do so -- then she's a hypocrite if she doesn't.

    Which, I know, isn't a revelation, but it bears repeating.
     
  11. This is precisely the Whitewater frame.

    "I'm not even convinced that there's anything THAT interesting in there. But it's more of the same lack of transparency."

    Yeah, and it wasn't the sex, it was the RULE OF LAW.
     
  12. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    You can't go around demanding documents that don't exist from your opponent while at the same time refusing to release your taxes. It's rank hypocrisy.

    And you're the only one who brings up Whitewater, or the Arkansas Project, or any of the rest of it.

    I'm not a right-wing kook. I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling me one.
     
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