Running Primaries Thread

This is really the perfect storm for Democrats. Having a long race is one thing. Having a long race filled with tension among racial and gender lines is another. The voting blocs are set in stone at this point. Obama is able to project the results of primaries a month in advance because it's obvious how everyone is going to vote.

I'll stand by my contention that the Dems lost the White House on March 4. That's when Clinton did well enough to prolong this race and make it uglier. I shudder to think what the next six weeks will hold.

 

In a different economic climate, you might be right. You still might be right.
But the economy is going to suck to such a degree (a gallon of gas, by November?
ANY estimate might be low . . . ) that McCain's probably not . . . going . . . to . . . get . . . there.

 

Not really. What's happening is that HRC is KILLING her own black vote. In South Carolina, there was a serious discussion among black women which was more "important" -- seeing the first woman elected president, or seeing the first African-American elected president. That the first "black president" would make S.C.'s black vote seem so insignificant has turned out, in retrospect, to be the first not-so-subtle racial wedge in the campaign. Add Rendell's comments, Ferraro's comments, HRC acting like the front-runner and doing Obama a big favor by holding him out as a veep candidate, and you get the 91-9 black vote margin Obama got in Mississippi -- the kind of margin REQUIRED for Democrats in the general election if they want to win.

The Clinton campaign is taking the risk that there are enough old ladies uncomfortable to see a black man in charge (and I know a lot of them) that it can win a state such as Pennsylvania, which has the third-highest population of seniors in the country, and create doubts about Obama's electibility (or is it electability? I can never remember). After all, the poll numbers in Ohio showed HRC had a guaranteed 15-20% of the vote from those who considered race and/or gender important.

I can't imagine African-American voters are going to turn out in force for HRC in a general election, much less work for her campaign.

 

So much for all that empathy HRC allegedly felt for those poor South Side blacks she canvassed on behalf of the Goldwater campaign in '64.

What a craven, debased harridan she is.

 

Wait, Ferraro goes from the old "It was taken out of context" gambit to going on morning TV to reinforce what she said?

 

What, is a HRC cabinet post riding on this?

Just IMAGINING the HRC cabinet should stop anyone sober from voting for her.

Yeah, let's bring Madeline Albright back, again.

GAG.

 

Delegates can do what they want at the convention. Primary delegates are generally going to be most supportive of the candidate who sent them, caucus delegates are going to be less so, and superdelegates will have no real loyalties at the convention. That an Obama nomination is a foregone conclusion is preposterous.

 

Sexist much?

 

Which is why it's entirely possible that, come November, Hillary Clinton will be the most undeserving presidential nominee in American political history. Obama's going to have more pledged delegates, will have carried more states and will own the popular vote come August. But...

As long as there is any chance at all that her campaign can steal enough delegates to win the nomination thru backdoor maneuvers in Denver, Clinton's not going to go away no matter what the DNC big shots want.

And if she winds up as the Dem nominee she'll get destroyed like Mondale in November.

 

No, I'm not, you fucking twit. It's a figure of speech.

 

I can see how you might say that... if you're unfamiliar with American political history.

 

You really know how to turn a phrase!