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Running racism in America thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Scout, May 26, 2020.

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  1. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Well, here’s why CBS was absent.

     
    Twirling Time, May 29, 2020
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  2. melock

    melock Well-Known Member

     
    melock, May 29, 2020
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  3. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    It's probably an appropriate charge - but will likely be pleaded down to something less. One reason prosecutors tend to overcharge non-police suspects with everything under the sun whether it makes sense or not so they can tell the suspect "You are facing 200 years in prison" and then it gets plead down to a simple assault or whatever the crime actually was.
     
    DanOregon, May 29, 2020
    #243
  4. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    So the video of the man with his knee on someone's neck wasn't enough. Got it. I wish I was more confident of the prosecutor.
     
    OscarMadison, May 29, 2020
    #244
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  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    This case, along with the crazy one in Arizona where the guy blew away the dude in the hotel hallway when his underwear were slipping, I mean, you wonder where those cops minds' went. I've seen some where "oh, God, what a mistake" and "that cop's a racist" but those two...there's not much in Chauvin's eyes to indicate a square inch of kindness.

    I have two cop friends and one cop acquaintance. One is a wonderful human being, a great cop, the kind liable to get hurt trying to help someone one day. Another is not the best guy out of uniform, having dumped his wife for a new lady - but a real by-the-book type who never crosses any line and probably, one day, would make a good IA cop. Hates malfeasance.

    That last one, the acquaintance...he's a squirelly guy. He's not a cop anymore; he had to leave the force 4-5 years ago after a major brawl with some suspect that left the cop's shoulder busted up. This cop liked action, likes to tell stories - and tells some good stories - but you get the sense he'd cross the line any hour of any day if he thought the suspect deserved it. Especially POC. I thought of that guy this week.
     
    Alma, May 29, 2020
    #245
  6. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    No way
     
    Machine Head, May 29, 2020
    #246
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I think they need time to investigate the report that they knew one another to see if there was more to the crime than was first apparent. It seems as if the reports are conflicting, but they at least worked security at the same nightclub.

    George Floyd And Derek Chauvin Worked At The Same Nightclub—But May Not Have Known Each Other, Owner Says
     
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    outofplace, May 29, 2020
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That is typical, because in the time between charging and a prelimary hearing they want to get the person to just plea to avoid having to put in the work of getting the conviction.

    But that isn't going to happen here. It's too high profile, people are rioting, and there is no way this cop is going to plea quickly.

    Which is why they ended up with the most appropriate charge based on what we all have seen. If they can make a case for a more serious murder charge later, they can recharge it. I don't think there is much chance politically at this point that they are going to go for anything less than what they already charged, unless the evidence changes dramatically about what happened.

    That was part of what pissed me off about the U.S. attorney in the press conference yesterday, fwiw. She did this BS act of, "We need to get it right the first time," as a reason for not arresting and charging something, like there is some kind of double jeopardy issue ... one that doesn't exist. When cops have probable cause, they make arrests. Prosecutors overcharge the way you said to try to get plea deals, or when they don't, it's not like they can't stop investigating and bring more serious charges later. There was no reason why this cop should have not been arrested, except for a blue wall of silence and a district attorney's office that works closely with the cops and is prone to making itself a part of the blue wall of silence.

    The only thing that is different sometimes now, are cell phone videos that force their hand.
     
    The Big Ragu, May 29, 2020
    #248
  9. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

     
    Machine Head, May 29, 2020
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  10. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Look at the bright side: this is one more arrest than Amy Klobachar made while on the job.
     
    BitterYoungMatador2, May 29, 2020
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  11. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    I am not running for the chopper.

    Come get some Predator

     
    Machine Head, May 29, 2020
    #251
  12. Tweener

    Tweener Well-Known Member

    Yeah, how about that for a good look? The city had to riot just to get an arrest. Fucking embarrassing.
     
    Tweener, May 29, 2020
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