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Running racism in America thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Scout, May 26, 2020.

  1. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Agreed on the first point.

    As to alienating people, there always will be people who want to be alienated — like the guys who stormed the Capitol. It's more important to discuss the issue than worry about how the messaging will be received.
     
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  2. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

  3. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I am not talking about whack jobs like the capitol rioters who are living in their own reality. I am talking about people who understand that there are remnants of systemic racism, but don't like a discussion about it invariably turning to their "privilege." This is how it is happening in reality -- like that sensitivity training I was listening to someone go through via Zoom that I mentioned. You don't engender sensitivity in a lot of people when you are using means that give no consideration to their individual experiences (everyone has a story), and worse you are making them feel scapegoated for historic unfair treatment of a broad group of other people. I don't want to paint everyone with a broad brush, the way others have on this thread. I am sure that isn't always the intent. But I do think that is what is behind it for at least some people. For them, it's as much about trying to put someone else down/ pointing a finger, as it is about simply trying to have a discussion about societal inequities.
     
  5. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    I’m very pissed/saddened about the entire trend of attacking elderly with a subset now on the Asian elderly. The WashPo had an article on it this weekend.
     
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  6. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    6 out of 8 murder victims of White SouthernBaptist cult member in Atlanta were Asian. But he was brainwashed by his cult to consider himself dirty and a sinner for engaging in sex. Is this because Asian women and girls are often victims of human trafficking? Where’s that outrage and mass demonstration? According to CNN it was possible that we had going to Florida to conduct more mass murders.
    His family helped law enforcement catch him. I find this to be refreshing. Some, maybe a lot, of Capitol Insurrectionists were also turned in by family, friends and neighbors. I think this means that while the extremists garner wide coverage, often deservedly so, they are a distinct minority.

    BTW if a white male killed 8 people in one killing spree and 6 were black, would we accept the killer’s denial that it was not racially motivated?
     
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  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

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  8. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Typical suspects in that gang, including Biggs, Gaetz, Gohmert and Greene. I’d love to see their phone logs (burner phones included).
     
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  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    White moderates are looking for any excuse to say "Oh man I'm being scapegoated, now I don't even want to do anything about this because I'm being attacked." It's classic abusive deflection.

    Because, like I said, their actual goal is to protect the system that benefits them. They just don't want to feel morally responsible for the consequences of protecting it, which is the continued subjugation of others. They have to convince themselves that as long as they don't actively hold malice to minorities, they've done their part.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You just painted a group of disparate people with a broad brush and attributed a single motivation to all of those people.

    I am not sure what you consider a "white moderate," but there are certainly people like the kind of person you just described. There are also many other white people who don't fit into your simplistic box.

    The construct you set up with that post is great though, because if someone objects to a a discussion on race being turned into them being told that they have been unfairly advantaged (instead of focusing on people who get discriminated against) you just come back with, "Of course that bothers you, because you are looking for an excuse to be a racist."
     
  11. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Do you really think that the Mid west and southern white trash Christians who form the core of racist and Republican support think the system works for them? Their irrational belief is that the system doesn’t work for them but it does work for minorities. They are delusional but their delusions are reinforced by their religious and political leaders.
     
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  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    No, it isn't, but Ragu's response shows an unwillingness or inability to listen to what Pilot was trying to explain.
     
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