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Running racism in America thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Scout, May 26, 2020.

  1. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Heh.

    "They started engaging with citizens of Philadelphia, who were none too happy about what they were saying. These males felt threatened, and, at one point, somebody in their crowd threw a type of smoke bomb to cover their retreat, and they literally ran away from the people of Philadelphia," said Philadelphia Police Officer Michael Crum.​

    White supremacist group marches through Philadelphia before Fourth of July celebrations
     
  2. Octave

    Octave Well-Known Member

    LOL ... everybody's got a plan until they get lost in North Philly
     
  3. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    If you have to cover/hide your face while marching for your beliefs, get better beliefs
     
  4. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    cancel couture
     
  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    I could see someone sacrificing their acceptance at a school or job for someone else. Would someone trade their child’s education or housing for someone else? I’ve worked or how to school or both at the same time for since I was 15. I’d like my children to have more than me. My children, not someone else’s. That’s now racist.
     
  6. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    When you accuse someone of "white privilege" and ask them to be the "first person to sacrifice. ... their comfort". ...think about what you are doing. ... 1) You are accusing them of something they had no control over. Nobody chooses their race. 2) But even though they have no control over it, you are telling them they should feel morally guilty about it nonetheless. ... to the point that you are suggesting they need to willingly harm themselves because of this contrived guilt trip you are laying on them.

    You want to try to have a productive converation about racism and discrimination and how we can continue to work toward a society that truly offers equality of opportunity for everyone? ... I think that can possibly be productive. If you want to try to suck me into your identity politics games, in a way that you think is going to make your perceived oppressor into the oppressed, have fun with that. ... without me. You're not helping anyone and just feeding the racism that exists.
     
  8. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Translation: We’d like all of you to go away so we can replace you with cheaper people.
     
  9. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. The first step to curing racism is admitting some of us live in different worlds and had different opportunities.

    It makes for a good applause line to say, “what do we gain by continually pointing our differences; just don’t be racist. Leave me out of identity politics.” The problem with that is if we don’t talk about it, we don’t begin to understand when someone says they don’t feel comfortable. It’s an easy cop out for someone to pretend that they are making a difference by not doing a damn thing. It’s so American. Take a pill to lose weight. Don’t work out. Workout just minutes a day. Don’t change your health habits. Don’t walk in someone else’s shoes, just talk about how you don’t see color, so get over it.

    The problem is people don’t have the luxury to get over it. They see the subtle ways society reminds them they are of color. It’s born out of a lifetime of being followed in a store or just knowing you are being pulled over off your drive a certain way home. It’s having to work harder for the same opportunity. It’s not being believed.

    Maybe some people want you to feel guilty for being white, but I can’t speak for them. But recognizing White privilege is the beginning to understanding how others live. Instead of I don’t want to discuss identity politics, how about putting your own ideas aside and listening to why your Black friend is saying what she/he is saying and trying to understand. When you understand, maybe you start to be mindful of what you say and how you say it. Then maybe you start to (politely) educate someone else and keep it going. And then we can really understand each other.

    But we have to admit we have a problem and understand it is your unique privilege to say you don’t want to talk about privilege.
     
  10. tea and ease

    tea and ease Well-Known Member

    I find it fault the left doesn't seem to understand language . Using the term "privilege" evokes country clubs and fathers' contacts. That is not the sentiment. Being opposite pro-life does not mean anti-life. But the right has deemed it so. Make them erase that and re-phrase it as "anti-choice"... different result. So instead of white "privilege", maybe "advantage"?

    I'm not here to undermine anyone's truth Just speculating words matter.
     
  11. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Word choices matter, and Dems are bad at that game. The R's come with "partial birth abortion" or "the death tax" or "death panels". The terms they use are loaded with spin, and to at least some degree they are consultant and marketing tested. The D's "white privilege", "defund the police" and the like tend to come from left wing Democratic rhetoric. Yes, "white advantage" would be smarter and easier to define simply. "Defund the police" is easily spun into cutting their budget. "Police reform" is an easier sell, but it needs to be accompanied by removing police from dealing with the mentally ill and the addicted, using social services rather than law enforcement to try to bring help to those who need it without criminalizing them.

    We spend huge amounts on policing in this country, and I'm not sure that the existing system is working in an effective way at all. Police should not be the front line for dealing with people with mental health issues. Those people tend to end up jailed or injured because the mind set is entirely different.
     
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  12. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    The whole thing's run by Gannett? We're doomed.
     
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