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Running racism in America thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Scout, May 26, 2020.

  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    King should be judged for being a man of his times, and he was most extraordinary for his nonviolent approach. Which was perfect for the moment. A time when enough Americans in the middle could feel
    Sympathy, empathy or guilt without trying to burn down the country to hide their shame.

    we need to keep ‘person of his times’ at the forefront of judgment when looking at lives in the past. For example, Does Woodrow Wilson really need to be shamed for his racial thinking which was mainstream but ignoring his desires for world peace and international cooperation, for which he was an early leader.
     
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  2. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    Most people fall in between good and bad. Wilson may have been a visionary when it comes to world peace, but he should definitely be shamed for his racial views. There was never a time when the Ku Klux Klan was a good thing in America.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Dragging Woodrow Wilson into a conversation about MLK Jr. for some specious reason is absurd. Woodrow Wilson was the first southerner to be elected president since before the civil war, and . ... everything about his attitude toward blacks is what it appeared then (and what it appears through the lens of history). His election was celebrated by segregationists. He was their guy. It's not like he was another slave owner during a time when slavery was legal and a part of the fabric of the country. He was the asshole who was telling "darky" jokes when most people kind of knew it was shitty. The guy favored racist policies and appointed outright segregationists to his cabinet. He screened Birth of a Nation at the White House for shits and giggles!

    There is no objective reading of history in which he had attitudes that were mainstream for the times. He was the bigot-in-chief, even by the mores of the 1910s. Of course that should play heavily into how people perceive him today.
     
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  4. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

  5. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    MLK's primary focus was in the South, but he also participated in open-housing demonstrations in northern cities. I recall his visit to Chicago, on which he commented, “I have seen many demonstrations in the South but I have never seen anything so hostile and so hateful as I’ve seen here today.” Earlier in the day he had been hit in the head by a rock, part of the rain of projectiles and spittle that greeted the march.
     
  6. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Just an aside ... for reasons I now can't recall, the other day I started wondering what Wilson's voice (particularly his accent) sounded like. One of the recordings I found had him referring to his opposition as retreating into "isolation", but he pronounced the "is" part like "iz" rather than "ice".
     
  7. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    I got hate mail from some flounder for posting Judge Davenport's recipe for children salad. What's funny is it looks like the Dukes Mayonnaise people liked the tweet before they actually read it. Oopsie!
     
  8. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    Don't bother looking for it. I took it down. For now. I don't want some cousin dater at the Dukes plant peeing in my mama's mayonnaise.
     
  9. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    From Rome, GA:

     
  10. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Worse. They’re in a nasty little hellhole on the backside of Floyd County called Coosa. It looks like what Gatsby and the gang drove through between West Egg and the city. Home to a paper mill and until recently a coal-burning power plant. Rich entitled shits from the big money boarding school in Rome used to come to the away basketball games there and chant “What’s that smell?”

    It is every bit as hard of a place to stand up for any kind of equity as you can imagine. That girl is damn brave.
     
  11. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    America makes me sad.
     
  12. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

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