Running racism in America thread

Same rationale as the conservative freakout earlier this year over "wokeness" in aviation. Certain jobs -- pilot, doctor, university administrator, etc. -- should only be done by Certain People, and anyone from outside that group is a "diversity hire" who wouldn't be there if judged purely on merit. The people making these accusations aren't racist or sexist, of course. They just want to make sure the best person for the job has that job! The fact that all their complaints about qualifications are aimed at women and minorities is purely a coincidence.
https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...me-diversity-dei-airlines-boycott-1234953756/

 

I'm so tired

 

I haven't slept a wink

 

The point was, I don't think the situation -- that medical programs use race/ethnicity as a primary, first-line deciding factor in acceptance to their programs -- can be argued. The guy in our family that I referenced worked for years to get in someplace, including others besides UCLA, but they all do the same thing.

That story seemed pretty well sourced and researched and covered a specific, extended period of time, in a legitimate, recognized program, that I thought gave it legitimacy, particularly as it was exactly what my subject experienced. It didn't seem concerning at all to you? You can't believe any of it? Or, you don't want to, because that wouldn't be the politically correct thing to do? You don't think someone who's been applying to and dealing with the testing and entrance process for years would know anything about it?

I don't like to see any discrimination, and I wouldn't know about every statistic there is that might prove or disprove anything, but in matters of the medical field, especially, the issues discussed in this story seem particularly concerning, as anything involving people's health should be.

And you can tell it goes on, just by looking at the field, in general, where you'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who wasn't a foreign native/minority listed on a doctor's office roster board these days, anyway. And if you don't think this is a problem, wait until you get older, and can't hear or understand all the doctors who don't speak plain, clear English without heavy accents. It's a real thing.

 

That he limited himself to UCLA is telling. It's as if he felt like he and only he had the privilege of going to UCLA.

"Well-sourced" doesn't matter if the sources are crap. See the discussion on the politics thread about the Biden story in the WSJ.

 

The Panic Over ‘Woke’ Med School

Column: Is UCLA a 'failed medical school'? Debunking a dumb right-wing meme

https://www.drvinayprasad.com/p/why-no-one-is-right-about-ucla-medical


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She pretty much has the same understanding of racial dynamics as my late grandmother. So if she was born in Appalachia midway through the Depression, this makes a lot of sense.

 

The point is that you ASSUME every foreign sounding named Dr can’t speak English. As a white guy I wouldn’t expect you to understand.

Also you assume every foreign sounding (er threatening non-western) name is a non citizen. Again as a white guy I wouldn’t expect you to understand that there are millions of post immigrant US born citizens with that surname, ah just like your ancestors once seemed. But again I don’t expect you to remember.

Finally, your looking at the very last white candidate who failed to make the cut, what about the rest of the whites who filled the first90% of the slots? Were they purely merit admits? No Lori Laughlin hijinks?

 

She’s a she, but otherwise yeah.

 

His tweets specifically point to an unchanged success rate on the Step 2 test.

Where he says "conclusively,' I think he means all the additional data released by UCLA refutes a great deal of that Free Beacon hit piece. Mentioned here in the Atlantic link:

Dubinett told me that the decline in shelf-exam performance was “modest.” He also pointed to data shared with the UCLA community by the school after the publication of the Free Beacon story, which show that every test-taker had passed surgery, neurology, and emergency medicine during a recent set of exams from 2023–24. The data also show that, for most other specialties, the passing rates were close to the expected benchmark of 95 percent. Moreover, 99 percent of UCLA’s med students had passed the second of three tests required to obtain a medical license on their first try as of 2022–23, and scores have remained above the national average over the past three years.

It sounds to me like the changes in UCLA med school curriculum have as much to do with any of this as changes in UCLA admissions policy.

 

Some of that is corporate America at work. Same reason that when you call a support line, you connect with "David" in Mumbai, who you have problems understanding. They can hire immigrant doctors, nurses, and specialists for less money.

I was working at a hospital when a transition happened that the radiologists never saw coming. In the old days,, you'd take portable chest x-rays on patients in their beds around midnight. All those films from overnight would be waiting when the Radiologists came on at 7 am. They read and dictate the films, reports go to the charts. When digital x-rays came in, no film to develop and handle, they started to send the overnight portable x-rays to Bangalore. Indian doc would read the films, dictate a report, and email it back.

The hospital radiologists were used to getting paid $8, maybe 10 bucks a pop for those. They got outsourced.