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Running SCOTUS thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by 2muchcoffeeman, Jun 15, 2020.

  1. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Court sides with an Arizona law that requires in person voting to be in the precinct they live and bans ballot harvesting. This was a strict down the line vote. I’m still processing what this means but I guess the big take away are a state can impose restrictions on voting in-line with the VRA but they don’t give a test for it.



    And the other big one, the court struck down a California law requiring charities and organizations to name their biggest donors.


     
  2. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

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    Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett wore their new robes to court today. Roger Taney is smiling in hell today.
     
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  3. JimmyHoward33

    JimmyHoward33 Well-Known Member

    Is there a good reason in person voting shouldnt be in your home precinct? More precincts = shorter lines = more enfranchisement?
     
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  4. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    I think that’s where Keagan was going in her dissent. Basically these restrictions are fine if you have ample places for people to vote but in inner cities you don’t. I think Alito was leaning on the vote by mail in Arizona to basically say the law doesn’t violate the VRA, 14th or 15th amendments because look at all this access. Except where there isn’t access.
     
  5. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Yes except in larger population centers where more minorities live, precincts tend to get consolidated and lines get long. In my neck of the woods with 40,000ish people, before we did strict mail in voting for all, I had to walk walk by one polling place to get to my polling place. And I live less than a half mile from my polling place. If it was like that for everyone, we’d be good. Just go to your precinct and vote. Lines would be short. But notoriously there always seems to be polling center problems in certain areas and elections officials who don’t want to lax rules to make voting easier because of the boogie man “voter fraud” might creep up.
     
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  6. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Being purely objective, I can see where the Majority went. They said changes can be made to voting rules unless some actual discrimination is shown. Now before 2013, the law of the land was that the VRA said no changes unless the State could make a showing that the change would NOT adversely affect minorities. Unfortunately in 2013 the Supreme Court nullified that burden, so now States are changing rules left and right, knowing it restricts voting to the poor. The Majority is saying, "well changes on their face are the same for everyone, so no harm."

    The main criticism of the "Warren Court" in the 1960s-1970s was that it would make decisions because that was what was "fair" in their view, that's where "substantive" due process came from, the Court would rule saying something was fundamentally unfair. I'm not disagreeing but simply pointing out that the conservatives are (obviously) refusing to do so.

    This makes it much harder for the poor to vote, but doesn't mean they can't vote. So there are several steps on the Dems now,

    1. Plan ahead and get the vote out knowing what the rules are;
    2. Change the vote in the State houses and get control of voting rules.

    Easy to say, I know, harder to do.
     
  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

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  8. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Been a busy six months for the Court. I imagine there are groups out there now planning challenges to things they never would have imagined had a chance in hell with the Supreme Court - but with this Court, now - who knows? There seems to be no consistent throughline, or legal reasoning on any of these decisions, except that the favor Republican party voters and donors and their views. I do wonder if lower court justices will now start following their lead.

    David Souter is just 82 - I'd love to hear his thoughts on the current state of the Court. Seemed pretty clear, when he retired under Obama.
     
  9. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    SCOTUS refused to hear trucking industry's appeal of California's AB5 law classifying independent owner-operators as employees; see Economy thread. I believe it also effects ride-sharing drivers.
     
  10. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Every dissent that goes 6-3 overturning public protections should begin with the line: "This holding was decided wrongly and should be overturned by a future court."
     
  11. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

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  12. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

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