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S.C. deputy filmed slamming teen girl out of desk, dragging her away

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    "He also noted that the officer's 'best friend is black.'"
     
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  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Give the sheriff credit. He's thrown the officer under the bus as gently as possible. Very soft hands.
     
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  3. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Such as what?
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    If his hands are that soft, then why isn't he successful as an NFL wide receiver?
     
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  5. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    1. The smart phone will become a tool in classroom for all teachers. It should be already. It has a calculator, access to the internet for research, their grades and their student email. There are also apps the school division can give the students passcodes to promote learning. It's the most powerful educational tool since paper. Banning it is stupid.

    2. School administrators cannot place their hands on a student 99.9 percent of the time. But... When a student is talking to a resource officer, they are talking to an officer of the law and not a teacher or a school administrator. A police officer has every right to place their hands on someone if they have placed them under arrest. Did this guy handle it properly? Probably not. Should he wait for her to stand up? No. He should clear the class and then handle her situation.
     
  6. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Why?

    That's assault if a parent does it to there teenage daughter.
     
  7. terrier

    terrier Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing he took the advice of Billy Bob Thornton in "Monsters' Ball."
     
  8. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    I didn't imply any such thing. Force is only justified in response to force or a legitimate threat of force. For departments that use the continuum, such as Richlands Co. SD, officers are taught they can be one level above what the subject is displaying or threatening.

    Even if this officer had appropriately progressed through the steps he skipped over, this level of force would not have been justified. It only becomes available to him if she uses force against him, and I don't see any punches being thrown in any of the available videos.
     
  9. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    I covered that pretty thoroughly up thread, counselor.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    So far, I've taken away "soft hands" and "soft talking" from your post. So how long are they supposed to use these "soft hands" and "soft talking", especially when it's already been done by two previous people?
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Sorry for the tangent, but after reading your first point, I have to ask if you teach in the classroom or work in education in some other capacity. I don't see how any classroom teacher wouldn't understand the reasoning behind banning cell phones in the classroom. They are a major distraction. Students can use them for educational purposes, but they are also going to be texting their friends and playing games and it is impossible for a teacher to police the proper use.

    You want to use technology in the classroom? Provide it. Find the money for computers. Whether that be part of the budget, fundraising or grant writing. (I know of schools that have acquired such equipment through the last two options.) Use something cheaper like Chromebooks or iPads, or shared computer labs because if the school is providing them, the school can limit their use. It is very easy to make sure students can't use school-provided technology for texting. It is a little tougher with non-educational games, but not impossible.

    Your approach gives students one more way to fuck around in class rather than focus and do their work.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    My rant about cell phones in school aside, to address the second point, I agree with you. It is ridiculous to argue that the resource officer should be negotiating. The teacher and administrator tried that. His job is to remove her and I'm quite certain she knew that. He needs to order her to comply and if she fails to do so, he needs to remove her.

    Also, the student did physically resist. That is part of why the desk was flipped over. I didn't see her hitting him as the sheriff suggested, but she did struggle.
     
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