San Bernardino

Can we please stop acting like Islamic terrorists only started targeting us after the Iraq invasion, or that the attacks are somehow our fault.

What did we do to provoke the:

1993 World Trade Center bombing

1996 Khobar Towers bombing

1998 Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania

2000 attack on the USS Cole

And, whose "team" was responsible for these attacks? They all happened under Bill Clinton. What did he do in response to these attacks in order to prevent future attacks?

(And, none of this is to say that we should start the clock in 1993 either.)

 

So much of this is just moral equivalency bullshit, designed to make you feel good about yourself.

You're more thoughtful, more understanding, less judgmental than the rest of us. Bully for you.

But, let's just examine one little piece of this idiocy:

Well, for one, I'm not entirely sure that a truly radical Muslim has any intention of moving here.

And by truly radical Muslim, someone who is willing and able to die to advance their cause, as part of their faith.

So, not truly radical Muslim, intent on dying for the cause, is going to move here?

Except for the one who just did move here, and die in a hail of bullets, leaving behind her newborn child? Is that what you mean?

What about the 9/11 terrorists. All of them were living here, having entered the country using visa (mostly a mix of student and tourist visas):

Identity and Immigration Status of 9/11 Terrorists (2011)

Even if you want to argue that the muscle guys didn't know what they were getting themselves into, the pilots certainly knew they were on a suicide mission.

The '93 World Trade Center bombers may not have been on a suicide mission, but they came here on visas intent to murder Americans.

 

When do you start the clock?

 

Sure. As long as Team Butthurt quits blaming this administration every time an Arab farts.

 

You tell me. Should we start with the RFK assassination in 1968?

The Meir Kahane assassination predates the first World Trade Center bombing by three years.

The U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were bombed in 1983. (Not by Sunni Muslim terrorists, but that's not really the point.)

 

Let me go get my copy of Zinn ...

 

Two things.

I feel great about myself.

America isn't the holy land or the warzone. It is also difficult to get to, as compared say the sorta border of Turkey or the fluid lines that make up vast portions of the Middle East.

So if I was a truly radical Muslim in Yemen, it would be much easier to go be with ISIL over there than coming here. Sure they can and have but i'd wager there's more American Muslims fighting there than Muslims coming here to wage terror.

 

#ignoranceisbliss

 

You said not to start the clock with certain acts. I asked for when you - YF - thinks it should start. It's not a damned gotcha question. I was just curious.

 

YF putting Jeff' kids through College on this thread alone.

 

And people mock my spelling/grammar.

 

You don't even believe that for a second. It's why you're the most disingenuous poster in the history of the internet.