Seinfeld's Kramer freaking loses it!

Guy_Incognito · Nov 21, 2006

Buck said:

By the way, the best lede for this story was on TMZ:
The jerk store called. They're running out of Michael Richards.
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Wow, that is good.

daemon · Nov 21, 2006

standman said:

That said, my wife and I both laughed at the Afro-American thing. We haven't heard that since filling out applications in the 70s.
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Apparently you've never been to TCU then!

BigRed · Nov 21, 2006

da man said:

Killick said:

I was one of the people snickering at the beginning of the apology. It was like I was still waiting for this to be some gag... like behind him on the satellite feed, the two hecklers were going to pop up with Jerry Lawler and challenge him to a wrestling match. Then, settled in to the completely uncomfortable stretch run.
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I'm with you. I was watching the show when he came on and I kept waiting for the punch line. I still wasn't sure it wasn't a gag even after Seinfeld said, ``Don't laugh, this isn't funny.''

The whole thing was astoundingly bizarre and uncomfortable.
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I agree. That was the part that made me cringe..... like the audience thought this was all a joke. Maybe Richards went on too soon. I had to watch the blowup on YouTube before I watched the apology. Both were rather frightening.

PCLoadLetter · Nov 22, 2006

standman said:

In an era when apologies are written by savvy public relations people and read in statements with the subject barely looking at the camera, Richards' mea culpa seemed genuine. I don't think he's that good an actor that he could stumble his way through something like that and not be real. To me, it wasn't too different from Hugh Grant after the hooker thing.

That said, my wife and I both laughed at the Afro-American thing. We haven't heard that since filling out applications in the 70s. It had us thinking about Soul Train and Good Times, that's how dated that expression is.

The good thing for Richards is it was one step above apologizing to a Negro.
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Oddly enough, at the press conference at the Laugh Factory earlier in the day when they announced that Richards was banned, a Black security guard spoke and twice referred to himself as "Afro-American." It wouldn't surprise me if that's where Richards got it, because I hadn't heard it in years, either.

One thing I'm curious about: a lot of people have talked about his rage on stage. How many of you have seen the footage full-screen on a TV, as opposed to on a computer? His facial expression is much clearer when you see it on TV, and to me it looks like a guy who, at the very least, is pretending to do schtick. It didn't look like uncontrolled rage to me, and it was much, much harder to tell that on the small computer video. That's why I'm inclined to think he was trying to get back at a heckler by being as offensive as humanly possible, as opposed to snapping and revealing some deep-seeded racism. Either way, he richly deserves the shitstorm coming his way.

Double J · Nov 22, 2006

da man said:

Killick said:

I was one of the people snickering at the beginning of the apology. It was like I was still waiting for this to be some gag... like behind him on the satellite feed, the two hecklers were going to pop up with Jerry Lawler and challenge him to a wrestling match. Then, settled in to the completely uncomfortable stretch run.
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I'm with you. I was watching the show when he came on and I kept waiting for the punch line. I still wasn't sure it wasn't a gag even after Seinfeld said, ``Don't laugh, this isn't funny.''

The whole thing was astoundingly bizarre and uncomfortable.
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"So what's the deal with people laughing at unfunny things?"

Columbo · Nov 22, 2006

dvds will be affected negatively by this.

not even a question

SoSueMe · Nov 27, 2006

All right, I'm watching Seinfeld. And I just keep waiting for Kramer to start dropping N-Bombs.

I didn't think it'd affect the way I view this show. But it does. All I can see is Richards' rant.

poindexter · Dec 6, 2006

An update

Gutter · Dec 6, 2006

Columbo said:

dvds will be affected negatively by this.

not even a question
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Couldn't be more wrong ...

Season 7 sales up 75 percent over Season 6 and 90 percent over Season 5.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061130/FEATURES01/611300336/1025

CitizenTino · Dec 6, 2006

Gutter said:

Columbo said:

dvds will be affected negatively by this.

not even a question
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Couldn't be more wrong ...

Season 7 sales up 75 percent over Season 6 and 90 percent over Season 5.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061130/FEATURES01/611300336/1025
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Yeah, looking at those numbers, I'd say it's safe to assume his outburst didn't hurt business. As for why Season 7 is doing so much better than the last two, I think there are a few factors to consider:

- They haven't released a season in a year. They had been doing it every six months.

- Sales around Christmas time are probably a lot better than the seasons released in May, which explains the marked improvement over Season 5 (which, if I'm not mistaken, came out in May '05).

- And (to a lesser degree) sales have probably been helped by the fact that Season 7 has the Soup Nazi episode, which is arguably the most famous episode of the series (although fans of The Contest would disagree, I'm sure).

shotglass · Dec 6, 2006

What ever happened to the Andy Dick thread?

YankeeFan · Jun 4, 2012

What a dope:

It looks like Michael Richards now has company in the "Seinfeld" alums who apologize for offensive comments group.

Jason Alexander, who played George Costanza in the long-running comedy, is saying "I'm sorry," this after he called cricket a "gay game" during Friday's (June 1) broadcast of the "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson."

In describing his thoughts on the sport to Ferguson, Alexander says, "It's the pitch...It's not like a manly baseball pitch; it's a queer British gay pitch."

These remarks were met with sharp disappointment from some of Alexander's Twitter fans as well as many in the LGBT community, including GLAAD. As a result, Alexander issued a lengthy statement via the organization on Saturday (June 2).

"I should know better. My daily life is filled with gay men and women, both socially and professionally. I am profoundly aware of the challenges these friends of mine face and I have openly advocated on their behalf," he says.

Alexander continues, "So, I can only apologize and I do. In comedy, timing is everything. And when a group of people are still fighting so hard for understanding, acceptance, dignity and essential rights--the time for some kinds of laughs has not yet come. I hope my realization brings some comfort."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/zap-seinfelds-jason-alexander-apologizes-for-gay-s-20120604,0,623832.story
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