Shocking Michael J. Fox Ad in MO Senate Race

And the logic train turns the bend and jumps the track. And the flat-earth consensus, by the way, was primarily a religious one, and it was overturned by people who went out on experimental voyages not knowing what they'd find or where they were going.

 

That is a total myth.

 

Well, I'm convinced.

 

by the way ... this was brought up ...

George Clooney in 2003, was a a public function and made fun of the fact that Charlton Heston had Alzheimer's. When he was asked if that was in poor taste, his respose was: "I don't care. Heston is the head of the National Rifle Association, he deserves whatever anyone says about him."

So Heston is fair game for an outright joke about his condition because he entered himself into the political arena by becoming head of the NRA? But people can't merely ask questions about Michael J. Fox's motivations for inserting himself into the political arena (mind you, no one in the public eye such as Rush made fun of his illness ... merely questioned letting himself be used in such a manner in a political race)?

 

Well, here's one result (from the 60 Minutes story I linked on another thread):

If paralyzed people are ever going to walk again, it might be because of the scientist in this story. His name is Dr. Hans Keirstead and he has made great strides using human embryonic stem cells. He is among the best and the brightest in his field — a field that shows enormous promise, but has been restricted by a ban on federal funding for research because it involves the destruction of human embryos.

To move the science forward, California allocated its own money to pay for stem cell research, luring some of the top scientists in the nation, who are doing cutting edge work that could change the way we treat disease. No image says more about the remarkable results that have been achieved so far than this one: laboratory rats whose hind legs were completely paralyzed — until they were injected with human stem cells. Remarkably, afterwards, the rats were able to walk again.

In that piece, the scientist describes in detail how the process works and why embryonic cells are the key.

It's a complex issue with many different avenues to argue. Everyone keeps trying to break it down to a simple right or wrong issue. It's not. In some instances, it's as right as can be. It other instances, it's less so, simply because there are other, more involved options that would allow scientists not to use embryonic cells.

For God's sake, read about this stuff. There's tons of information out there. If you're not sure what publication might be biased, there have been numerous peer reviews of this research in several medical journals. Those leave the moral debate aside and simply provide a solid report on what has been accomplished and where the research stands right now.

By the way, according to the story, the scientist mentioned in the 60 Minutes piece is awaiting FDA approval to become the first person to inject cells into a human.

 

So Rush didn't make fun of Michael J. Fox? Merely asked questions?

How hondoesque of him.

 

It's part Two of the Hondo Defense.

 

hondo--
Before I respond, I'd like to hear the "jokes" Clooney made because I honestly never heard of this anecdote before.

 

Yeah, as usual, anything FB says is taken as gospel and the rest of us have to provide references, but whatever...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2587

http://tinyurl.com/y8mvfj

http://www.bede.org.uk/flatearth.htm

 

Jack --
If you scroll down through the Wiki entry, you'll find the religious basis for believing in a flat earth, linking to ID proponents makes you look really silly, so does linking in this context to to Christian apologetics, and, anyway, you're so far away from your original point -- All The Scientists Believe We Should Continue ESC But Everybody Believed The Earth Was Flat Once, Too -- or whatever it was, that you'll never find your way back.

 

The FDA, hopefully, will look into the results on the record overseas and realize this voodoo science needs to be buried in a very deep hole and never again allowed to see the light of day. Adult stem cells can be controlled to do exactly what the doctor wants done to cure the patient. Adult stem cells are already providing beneficial results.
Embryonic stem cells cannot be so controlled because at that stage the cells have not yet determined what they will become. In situations where they have been injected into a human being they have created horrific results. When you use embryionic cells any result is possible, far too many are detrimental to the health of the injected patient.