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Shooting at Las Vegas casino

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by melock, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Ain't about "intended," though.

    I advocate complete and immediate repeal of the Second Amendment because I disagree with how courts have interpreted the Second Amendment, to this point, and don't trust them to continue to interpret the Amendment. Legislators, particularly local legislators, should not have to be handcuffed by the federal Constitution on this issue.
     
  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    When you drive into Vegas there are billboards for all the shooting ranges you can go to get your rocks off shooting an AK 47
     
  3. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Actions would be better.
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Firearms in general should be treated like cars. A license, registration and insurance should be required upon criminal penalties of law. Doesn't interfere with anyone's right to bear arms whatsoever. I'm as free as a bird to buy a new car today, except for my bank balance.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I don't disagree with you, but the courts might. So fuck 'em. Let the legislatures live with their laws, instead of hiding behind the Constitution. This needs to be a policy debate, not a Constitutional debate. Repeal and replace.
     
  6. SpeedTchr

    SpeedTchr Well-Known Member

    Disagree. Ownership should be outlawed. We can't risk even one person going off-kilter after legally purchasing a license and insurance. It's not worth the risk.
     
  7. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    No, I don't think it does. We can ban ARs without a wholesale repeal of the Amendment. We already place other restrictions on the arms civilians are allowed to "bear" with regard to bombs/artillery/etc., I see no reason we can't extend those restrictions a bit further.

    I've no problem with having a 2nd Amendment as it relates to arms serving reasonable purposes--hunting rifles and pistols serving personal protection purposes are fine by me. But it's insanity to group military-grade assault weaponry in with those firearms as if they're the same thing, when really they're something fundamentally different designed for entirely different purposes ...and possessing a level of lethality the founding fathers never could've fathomed in their wildest imaginations when they drafted the Second Amendment.
     
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I agree. But we allowed our judicial system to be turned into a politicized, second de facto legislature, in which the constitution can mean anything depending on their idiocy. ... until new appointees with different social ideals can pervert it to mean something completely different.

    I can't imagine that the founders of the country put together a bill of rights with all kinds of age of enlightment ideas spelled out as rights, such as freedom of worship, freedom to say things, freedom against a government authority barging into your home for no reason, etc. ... and among those rights they were like, "Guns!" I find it especially unbelievable in that the second amendment couched the right they actually intended in terms of a "well regulated militia" being necessary. And there is the obvious that the types of weapons we have today didn't exist then. I mean, why is it illegal for me to own a nuclear weapon if there is a natural right to bear arms?

    That said, it doesn't matter what the purpose was, and common sense doesn't matter either, because people don't seem to care. So I'd be fine if there was a movement to repeal the damned thing if that can put an end to the lunacy. Given the zealotry surrounding guns, though, I don't see that happening. ... easily at least.
     
  9. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    I think the response to your first post was because people felt it was sarcastic. I did, too. If it's not, that's great.
     
  10. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    On a side note, anyone else do a giant spit take when Trump said, "The Scriptures say ... " and then started weaving God into his remarks?

    I'd like to hear someone ask Trump, on live TV, to quote his three favorite passages from the Scriptures. Probably get the same answer – "All of them!" – that he gave when asked about his favorite books of the Bible.
     
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  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I covered an Antonin Scalia speech, of all people, a few years back. He mused out loud that the Second Amendment might just mean that people can own guns with the firepower available at the time of the Bill of Rights' ratification.

    But, indeed, the nuclear bomb argument is a compelling one and I've made it, too. We know that there is a line somewhere.
     
  12. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Well never mind then.
     
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