Shooting at Va. Tech

I wonder about that. For one, he had a prior history of stalking/harrassment of women.

And I believe two of the victims at Norris Hall went to the same high school as he did.

We may not know the details, but he picked these locations for a reason.

 

We interrupt our program with a special installment of the SportsJournalists.com series, What IN THE FUCK is wrong with these people?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Yzc2NmQwODc0ZWMxNTYxM2NlZGY3Yjg4NTRkYzAzOTA=

 

I think it's a lack of fiber in the diet.

 

Perhaps it's already been addressed, as I've been away from this thread for a few days, but I think what people are saying is that society tolerates too much when it comes to taunting and teasing. If a kid punches another kid, he gets some serious punishment. But when a kid destroys another student's self-esteem, the punishment is usually a slap on the wrist.

Take this for example: My wife had a student who was poor and couldn't afford to take a bath every day, etc. A few other guys in the class cracked jokes about him stinking. This kid was devastated. My wife sent him on an errand, and then she launched an assault on the students who made the wise-cracks. But they weren't kicked out of class. Of course, then she talked to the student to help him with his problem. By then, though, it's too late. Can you imagine how terrible it would be to have 25 kids laughing because you stink so bad that your odor saturates the room? Now imagine that happening to Cho in a class filled with rich kids.

Of course, this taunting stuff starts early. It's ingrained in our culture. You have to buy the right jeans and drive the right car. It's pounded into us through the world of commercialism. We must conform or be ostracized. Don't think that people grow out of this. Look at all of the SUVs on the road today, look at the number of people swimming in debt to pay for their beautiful possessions. It's precisely the world that Cho despised.

Now, there are lots of ways to resist conformity. Grunge is an example. Of course, a lot of those movements jump the shark when they become the very definition of what they once resisted. Unfortunately, Cho's impetus for non-conformity was a hatred for those he felt had hurt him. As well, he had some mental issues. As such, his reprisal was more than a nipple ring and a tattoo on his scalp.

We shouldn't excuse what he did, but it would do a disservice to the our future generations to ignore the reality of it all. Cho took 32 lives and left us with only a twisted, warped message. We should take whatever lesson from it that we can in the hope that those 32 people paid a price so that others might not have to pay it themselves.

 

Why do dipshits use tragedy to push their agenda? I dunno if this has been discussed already, but of everything I've read about the reaction to the shootings..this is easily the most troubling..

http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=OJ1936391F&news_headline=religious_group_to_protest_at_virginia_tech_funerals

 

You deserve many of the green bottles for that post.
Very well-played, and congrats to the HeinekenWoman for standing strong.

 

Heineken, I don't excuse the taunting. And I suffered enough of it growing up.

Many of us suffer it years beyond our youth. Every time a reader/source calls and lights into you with a vicious diatribe about how you're a kiddie toucher because you write too much about one (very good) player or because you dare expose some of the closed-door BS at City Hall, it's the same mentality that you see in the schoolyard.

Few of us are shooting up schools.

And your wife ripping into those kids probably made the problem worse for the child who was getting picked on. She did the right thing, but kids usually will do anything to defy someone such as your wife, who was trying to do the right thing.

 

I don't have a link but Pat Buchanan said on the McLaughlin Group that the shootings at Virginia Tech was Virginia Tech's fault since they banned guns on campus.
If the school hadn't done that, then some concealed gun-toting student would have been able to take Cho out before he had done so much damage.
Lawrence O'Donnell said it was really the Bush administration's fault. Cho used high-capacity clips that had been banned under Clinton and had been put back on the market by Bush. If those hadn't been available, then Cho wouldn't have been able to do so much damage.
The one consensus opinion was that in a free and open society occasionally the crazy people kill people.

 

Oh and that guy's premise is wrong, I think 49 of the 50 states have what is called Good Samaritan Laws on the books that cover healthcare providers and those trained in emergency medical procedures like CPR.
If they act in good faith and do what they are trained to do, then they can't be sued if something goes wrong.
The lone holdout is Tennessee, I think.

 

The consensus pretty well exposes the other arguments. Would having everyone pack heat have stopped this specific attack? Probably. But chances are you'll see an increase in heat-of-the-moment shootings (and you still have to pull the gun out first; just having the gun doesn't protect you from getting shot). And Cho would have figured out another way to kill people -- bombs, biological weapons, whatever. By the same token, that also means he would have likely gone onto the black market to get the high-capacity clips he needed. And again, if that wasn't an option, it's back to bombs or biological weapons or whatever.

 

You're not an American boy if you don't get your ass whipped a few times in grade school.