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Should the President of the United States have a Swiss bank account?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, May 1, 2012.

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  1. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    What some of the people around here are forgetting, is that there are facts, and then there are political facts.

    In elections, only the latter matter.
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    That isn't what I'm arguing. Please quote where I said that. You may be inferring the wrong thing, but I'm not implying it.

    The question was what tax advantages there are to having money in Swiss banks. It's pretty clear there are tax advantages, even if the advantages are gained "illegally," because the legality has not and possibly will not be tested.
     
  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    The link you posted said it would be advantageous for "nonprofit institutions and large retirement funds" to set up shop there.

    It didn't say anything about personal bank accounts. Unless I'm lazy and didn't read the whole thing.
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That New York Times article has NOTHING to do with the conversation. How frustrating.

    There is NO FUCKING TAX ADVANTAGE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO INVEST MONEY IN A FUND DOMICILED IN THE CAYMAN ISLANDS. Christ.

    Tell me specifically how doing that would save me on my tax bill. Spell it out. Your words. No links to things that have nothing to do with the conversation and then resting your case.

    I have $100,000 to invest. Tell me, as an American, what the tax advantage is to me in parking it in an account domiciled in Switzerland or the Cayman Islands versus an account based in the U.S. It's simple. Explain it to me.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    OK, then. Just so we are clear ... you are saying that you can't think of any tax advantages to having a Swiss bank account unless you are trying to cheat.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Look, guys, here is what you are arguing: There is no tax advantage to having money in Swiss and Cayman banks.

    I have shown some of the ways it happens. If you don't see it, and don't agree with the part of the New York Times article that says Mitt Romney "may have benefited personally" from an accounting technique that senators from both sides of the aisle want declared illegal, then we're at loggerheads here.

    Just go on posting that it's all about the currency and nothing about the taxes. That notion makes no sense and isn't the way it's applied practically in the world, is your only problem there.
     
  7. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Right. And nobody ever tries to skirt the rules on their taxes so it probably really doesn't ever happen in the real world.
     
  8. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2012/01/24/romney-foundation-gives-210k-in-boston.html

    But if Mitt had a charity, would it be financially wise to hold its accounts offshore?
     
  9. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I was kind of hoping for some more detail on this pargument, too ...
     
  10. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Yep, looks like the Obama campaign's hit a nerve.
     
  11. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Ragu, you're a much smarter financial mind than I, but reading that NY Times article, it appears pretty clear that by investing in an IRA in the Caymans, one can avoid paying the unrelated business income tax, which is something -- according to the article -- Romney has done.

    That would qualify as a tax advantage that you as an American would gain by putting your money into an IRA in the Caymans instead of in the U.S. Am I misreading?
     
  12. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Oh, I dunno Doc, I guess I'm just naive in not thinking it would be an economic cure-all if all Americans "domiciled" all of their money in overseas banks.
     
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