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SI: Oklahoma State football players got sex, drugs and money

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by LongTimeListener, Sep 8, 2013.

  1. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

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    So you are saying none of this will lead to any consequence?

    What's more likely to lead to consequence, SI's story or Yahoo's? I'll take the one with the paper trail.
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

  3. BrianGriffin

    BrianGriffin Active Member

    Here's today's story...don't think it's been linked yet:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130913/oklahoma-state-part-4-the-sex/?sct=hp_t11_a2&eref=sihp

    I'm not seeing much here with the exception of the DeForest quote, which, if true, could easily have just been locker room humor misconstrued.

    That said, the whole notion of a hostess program is sleazy to me.
     
  4. TurnTwo2

    TurnTwo2 Member

    Reminded me of every reason I cannot stand Whitlock.
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    "The idea was to get [recruits] to think that if they came [to Oklahoma State], it was gonna be like that all the time, with … girls wanting to have sex with you."

    Good use of the parenthetical [to Oklahoma State].
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    OK, now that the whole series is out, I can say it overpromised and underdelivered. It was an interesting look at the rise of a football program, and I agree with dq that the academic stuff is worth checking out, but it was a lot of supposition and not as much fact. Seemed like way too many witnesses saying they saw or "knew" other people were doing something.

    The sex story, the most powerful example was a recruit getting a hummer from a woman the players knew but who wasn't a hostess. Not seeing a real big deal there.
     
  7. Second Thoughts

    Second Thoughts Active Member

    The reason this series doesn't shock and awe me, and maybe many others, is that I'm sure at least some or all of this goes on at many big schools, at the least.

    When I first started covering college football and saw the "hostesses" at that school and I thought then that it had to be to have or tease sex with recruits to get them to sign on. Didn't Joe Namath, in a biography, say that the first time his legs failed him was while having sex in a backseat on a recruiting trip?

    Years ago I personally knew a highly recruited basketball player who smoked pot with his two host players there in the athletes' dorm during his campus visit. Another player who went on to star in football at a Division I school was from a high school where a woman I knew was teaching. She showed me his school work, and he could barely write his name much less earn eligible grades in a college. Yet, there he was on the field making plays for four years.

    What I wonder about SI's series is: Why Oklahoma State of all schools?
     
  8. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Because they found former players willing to talk.
     
  9. H.L. Mencken

    H.L. Mencken Member

    All it has to do is start with one guy. A reporter, whether it's Dohrman or Evans, gets one guy to talk about getting money or sex or free grades or whatever. Takes it to an editor. The editor takes it to an editor. The case is made that OSU represents the perfect program, because they're indicative of all of CFB. This is how business is done. The fact that people assume it was some nefarious plot by Evans is so silly.
     
  10. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Ditto.
     
  11. nmmetsfan

    nmmetsfan Active Member

    Because Oklahoma State is a big enough name to make a statement but not so big as to seriously damage college football's product.
     
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Seems relevant here -- not all that surprising, I suppose, but amusing:

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