Six injured in shooting at Louisiana move theater; shooter kills self

YF, my issue with the NRA isn't that they advocate for 2nd Amendment rights. It's that the NRA fights, tooth and nail, any control on firearms whatsoever. For instance, there is no reason that hundred round M4 magazines should not be illegal. There is no sporting or hunting need for them. The only time that they are truly useful is if you want to shoot a whole bunch of people without being vulnerable while you reload. Even then, any half competent shooter can drop a 20 round mag and replace it in seconds. Same for a thirty round Glock pistol magazine - the only reason for one is to have an easily concealable thirty shot man killer. Damn few street shootouts go more than six or eight shots unless there are multiple shooters.

I think that assault weapon bans are bogus and are often done because the weapon looks scary. I can do just as much damage with a gun that looks like a "hunting rifle" as with an AK or M4.

Second Amendment gives the right to bear arms, but not any and all arms and accessories. For instance, back in the 1920's and 30's it became obvious that sub-machine guns in civilian hands was a Bad Idea, and they were banned.

NRA opposes any gun law whatsoever, period. That is becoming increasingly untenable with people who are not gun crazies. I grew up with firearms and hunting. I was 15 when I owned my first gun. My father was an Army infantry company commander in WWII. I'm not a gun control crazy - but I think that the no gun control crazies have been and are going too far.

There should be very real and effective screening for felons and mental cases buying guns, and if anything the last couple of cases have pointed out that they need to be more effective. There is no excuse for the gun show loophole. No, we'll never be able to stop individual sales, because there are simply too many guns and too many people owning them... but that is not a reason not to do what we can. We'll never stop drunks from driving and killing people either, but that does not mean that we should not make any effort to.

 

They don't but they do need some things in common to make a comparison and besides being polarizing issues for political partisans, they have nothing in common.

Sure, but having a doctor insert a wand into a woman's vagina against her will is not "common sense reform" it is culture warriors trying to prove a point and make a show of doing "something" so that when it is rejected by the courts, they can then rail on "activist judges."

False. See thread on when people present opinion as fact but here's factcheck.org

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/22/o...eception-against-planned-parenthood.html?_r=0

And here's the NY Times on the edited video, the full video, when seen, says ...
the shorter version was edited to eliminate statements by Dr. Nucatola explaining that Planned Parenthood does not profit from tissue donation, which requires the clear consent of the patient.

Up is not down here. Most of what is presented as common sense reforms are not cleverly disguised obstacles to letting a woman make her own choices.

Most of the common sense gun reforms aren't designed to end gun ownership for all, they are designed to make it more difficult for a person to impulse buy or buy guns from unregistered sellers.

Can a convicted felon walk out of prison, go to a gun show and buy a gun? Yes, in most places.

Can a woman walk into a hospital and have an abortion, on demand? No, in most places.

 

What's hysterical is YF saying the abortion industry is less regulated than the taxi industry. We're talking about an industry whose foes are trying to regulate the size of hallway doors and parking lots.

BTW, if the industry is so deregulated, why is Gosnell the only one who's been caught doing what he did? Shouldn't there be more Gosnells lurking around with their rusty knives and folding tables?

 

Give this guy a gun.

Man accused of decapitating wife in central Phoenix home

 

Which is the exact same thing pro-abortion groups do in regards to the single issue they were founded to defend.

So, why does it surprise/anger you when the NRA does it, and why do people express outrage that "pro-gun" elected officials won't go along with "commons sense reform", but we never hear the same kind of surprise/outrage/anger when abortion advocates won't go along with any "common sense" abortion reform.

Outlawing partial-birth abortion? Extreme.
Parental consent for teens? Extreme.
Waiting periods? Extreme.
Adoption counseling? Extreme.
Ultrasounds? Extreme -- unless necessary for less "crunchy" harvesting of valuable organs to be sold at profit.
Admitting privileges at a local hospital for abortion doctors? Extreme.
Abortion clinics held to the same standards as ambulatory surgical centers? Extreme.

 

Uh huh.

And yet, if the fee to acquire the organs is simply a reimbursement for the costs involved, why is the price not fixed, and is instead open to negotiation?

 

A leading major party Presidential candidate, the Mayor of New York City, and others are trying to protect the taxi industry from new completion. As it is, they regulate the supplu of taxis through medallions, rates, prices, and more.

What's the barrier to entry to opening an abortion clinic? What standards must it meet to operate? What gets inspected more often, Dr. Gosnell's abortion clinic, or Mom & Pop's diner?

 

Didn't see this part of the story coming:

Crump says the suspect and victim have a history of mental illness, domestic violence and drug abuse.

 

They regulate that industry so that they don't have rapists working as independent contractors and so that customers will have their medical bills paid for in case the independent contractor crashes the car.

The barrier to entry for abortion clinics varies by state. I'd suspect that they are similar to barriers to open a doctor's office or a dentist's office. And those offices have less risk of mice running around instead of Mom & Pop's diner.

 

Did he cut out his eye, or was the eye missing previously?

 

Not gonna argue for or against abortion here, but I can't remember the last time it killed 12 random people at a movie theater. Or 32 innocent, hard-working people at a public university.

Gun nuts and their play toys are a much bigger threat to society as a whole.

 

If he had a mental disorder he must've been a leftist too?

The Intolerance Of The Left: An Interview With Harry Stein - Conservative Crusader

Forgot to post the answer, which is pretty funny:

Harry Stein: Perhaps the wisest course is to quote Dr. Rossiter himself here on the malady’s symptoms: “Prominent among them are a basic mistrust of cooperation; false perceptions of victimization; intense envy and underlying shame; a need to vilify and blame others; deficits in self-reliance and self-direction; a marked fear and avoidance of responsibility; infantile demandingness; an intense and often paranoid hostility; a need to manipulate, control and depend on others; a lack of courage, resilience and frustration tolerance; and various defects in ego ideals, conscience and impulse control. Therapy must also address the liberal’s self-pathology, especially his immaturity, self-centeredness and grandiosity; his lack of empathy for and recognition of others; his marked sense of entitlement; and his impaired self-esteem and identity. Educational programs to cure the liberal’s ignorance of free-market economics, libertarian political process, constitutional democracy, and the psychology of cooperation rank high among therapeutic priorities.”