Slut shaming in the Buffalo News?

But "hanging all over him" to keep the other cats away isn't an example? We can't read between those lines?

That said, again, who are we mad at, the bartender, or the reporter who didn't ask those follow-ups?

 

So, flirtatious behavior has a direct and absolute bearing on giving consent for sex? If not, then no, it's not any more relevant, in and of itself, than, say, Trayvon Martin making purple drank.

 

Can we be mad at both? "Hanging all over" is more perjorative than descriptive, in my humble opinion.

 

It doesn't have an "absolute bearing." But when determining probability, it makes it more probable that consensual sex would have occurred than had she not engaged in flirtatious behavior. It also may be relevant in that it helped lead Patrick Kane to the conclusion that he had non-verbal consent.

 

"Hanging all over" is reality in a bar.

I'm trying to take the enormous (possible) longview with this bartender in the sense, Is he slut-shaming a chick who hung all over a superstar athlete in an effort to protect his (and Kane's interests)?

I don't see that. Reporter asked him questions. He answered questions. I don't see a spurious nature to his answers. But I could be wrong.

 

Right. We'd do well to at least entertain the possibility that: This is actually what he saw!

 

He saw italics?

 

Do you have anything of substance to contribute?

 

Too much effort is being made reading into what the bar owner is supposedly saying about the woman. If you take the quotes literally, he is not really saying anything about her other than that she was flirting with Kane.

What's relevant is that the reason you go to the bar is to find out how KANE was behaving that night. If he was acting like a douche, you would print that. The newsworthy information here is that the bar owner didn't see anything out of the ordinary from Kane OR the woman. So that's what you print.

Whatever else people choose to read into it reflects their own biases and agendas, IMO.

 

Sorry, counselor. I didn't mean to be obtuse.

 

I have no doubt Patrick Kane came to that conclusion.

 

No, too much effort is being made turning what the bartender said into bartender being a part of the slut-shaming process, which is wrong.

She was acting like a whore! isn't what he was saying.