So. Who wins the Heisman?

He's not winning anyway. I have no argument to make.

 

We all seem to agree Winston is the best player.

Can't we just strip him of the Heisman later if this proves to be true? They don't recognize Reggie Bush's Heisman.

This need to avoid our own embarrassment at the expense if Jameis Winston's right to due process seems a tad much. If he'd been charged, it would feel different. How do we know this isn't Duke lax situation? Unlikely, but still.

 

Bush is different. He was deemed retroactively in eligible to play college football.

 

Jameis Winston will skate through the legal system because of the Florida State Football Machine.

If it costs him the Heisman, that's an OK trade.

 

And the folks at the Heisman Trust are a bunch of idiots for stripping him of the award.

 

The same FSU football machine that couldn't clear Greg Dent this year or Peter Warrick or Coles in the late '90's?

 

LOL Greg Dent. Who gives a fuck about Greg Dent.

Don't be stupid.

 

So we let the media protect the integrity of the game. He's probably as guilty as sin but he has not been convicted of anything. Vote with information you have.

I apologize for sounding OOPish.

 

Sounds like you've already deemed him guilty.

Is the worst case scenario you give the Heisman to a possible rapist? Or that you don't award it to him and it turns out he is never charged?

If he is charged, he's off the team, is that correct? So it wouldn't even matter if he was charged and not convicted - he would still be off the team. And I understanding that correctly?

Keep it in your pants, fellas.

 

or Travis Johnson?

 

Are fanbois trying to prove some kind of point that there is not a Florida State Football Machine?

In Johnson's case, then-FSU president T.K. Wetherell and the school's student affairs vice president were criticized by prosecutors for trying to work out a deal to keep the matter out of court. Wetherell spoke to Johnson and the complainant, and Mary Coburn, the student affairs VP, drafted an agreement that proposed neither Johnson nor the accuser pursue legal action; her proposal had Johnson withdrawing from school for six months before re-enrolling in time for the next football season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000284592/article/travis-johnson-jameis-winston-investigation-will-wear-on-him

 

Maybe they tried to keep it out of court because they knew he was innocent as the jury decided within 30 minutes.

Innocent until proven guilty or what you are implying is Winston and Johnson a guilty no ,after what because they play football and there must manipulation going on.