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Something new: Columbia University football going without fat guys on O-line

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Small Town Guy, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. cyclingwriter

    cyclingwriter Active Member

    Vince Lombardi approves of this.
     
  2. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Well obviously that won't happen since Columbia is an FCS school but it continues to amaze me that some ex-Ivy FB player/lawyer hasn't sued the league on behalf of football players who are denied the chance to compete in the postseason, unlike Ivy athletes from every other sport.

    Pretty clear-cut case of discrimination. You could even make a Title IX case out of it, since males are not receiving equal opportunity.

    Not saying they'd ever win the title, but they could easily win a couple games. The upper-level Ivy League teams can play a little bit and it would be fun to see a p-layoff game from Harvard Stadium.
     
  3. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    Methinks coldcat wasn't being serious ...
     
  4. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

    A former buddy of mine would do just that....Ivy League, NEC, Patriot League. There are a number of lesser conferences he would bet.
     
  5. jackfinarelli

    jackfinarelli Well-Known Member


    None - - and I mean not a single one - - of the sportsbooks that I have frequented in Las Vegas over the past 20 years or so has ever had a line on an Ivy League football game or a Patriot League game. In fact, if for some goofy reason Yale was playing Texas one weekend, that game would not be on the board either in the places I have visited.

    The majority of my time in Las Vegas has been in casinos/sportsbooks on The Strip or down on Freemont Street. I have no knowledge of the small casinos that exist outside those two areas.

    Where are these sportsbooks in Las Vegas that offer wagering on Ivy and Patriot league games?
     
  6. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Interesting. I'd have figured that somewhere in Vegas you could find action on two cockroaches racing across the kitchen floor at Circus Circus. Surely Harvard-Yale, at the very least, has a line each year? Seems like there would be some interest in that one.
    Anyway, replace "Ivy League" with Sun Belt, WAC, MAC or a couple of the other smaller FBS conferences. The strategy is the same. And it's more prevalent in basketball, where you have twice as many games and three times as many teams and leagues.
     
  7. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member

    For anyone who did bet on this game, Columbia won by...a point. 10-9.
     
  8. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    yeah, duh. I think I caught that too.
     
  9. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Damn. So much for the get rich scheme that you can make money betting the Ivy League because the betting lines are inaccurate.
     
  10. jackfinarelli

    jackfinarelli Well-Known Member


    Batman:

    I have seen lines for - - and have actually wagered on - - Ivy League basketball games. However, in approximately 50 trips to Las Vegas over the past 20 years where sportsbook betting and the watching of games was a central part of the reason to take the trip, I have never seen a line on a football game involving an Ivy League team. (or a Patriot League team). Not Harvard/Yale; not Team A/Team B for the Ivy League championship; not any of that.

    I admit that I have not been in every sportsbook in the city; but I wonder where all these betting lines reside.
     
  11. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Don't think the Ivy champ wins a couple games, maybe 1st round some years. The Ivy is similar to the Patriot League, better academic schools no athletic scholarships (they get around it somewhat with grants and aid but it's not the same). The big-time subdivision schools have scholarships and bigger budgets. At Delaware you sometimes get someone like Flacco and schools in that conference play and sometimes beat a team like Temple.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's not just Ivy League football, it's all FCS (formerly Division I-AA) football. Most sportsbooks don't set lines and take action. Too easy to get killed. Not enough info out there about a lot of those teams, and there wouldn't be enough money flowing to those games, making it easy for someone to move a line, or worse for a book, clean up. Even on FBS games, before they settle on a line, there is a lot of fine tuning, including putting it out there for a small subset of bettors, and seeing what the "sharp" money does. They then adjust the line accordingly before releasing it to the public. I have seen lines for the FCS playoffs and championship game. But most Vegas sportsbooks don't even take action when an FCS team plays an FBS team (Division I).
     
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