Sopranos 6/10 -- THE END

and when he comes out, paulie is dead from old age or retired and moved to south florida and tony's crew is non-existent because when the show ended, his crew was a bunch of nobodies.

i thought the ending was great. i loved the part where we kept watching meadow struggle with the parking

 

I watched HBO West hours after the show aired on regular HBO, and you see Meadow running across the street, but not again after the cut to Tony and the abrupt cut to black.

 

Because, after 85 7/8 episodes, what could be better than spending a good portion of the final minutes of the series than watching a woman try to park a car?

Sorry. Not with you on that one.

 

I had no idea how Sopranos would end.

I did know, though, that no matter how it ended, Simon Cowbell would throw poo at those who disagreed with his interpretation of the finale.

Some things never change. Simon, you can't even handle talking about a TV show. How do you deal with real life?

 

I saw HD. Saw Meadow then Tony then black screen.

 

Something else I noticed when watching the last five minutes for a third time: If you have no expectations of something major happening, it could be any scene in any restaurant in America. Nobody does anything remarkable (even Meadow's attempts to park mirror something that probably happens a thousand times a day), but your point of view -- which you have no control over, because it comes from Chase's eye -- alters how you see it.

The other thing about point of view in the first viewing is you're colored by your own expectations, whatever they were. Seeing it again after the fact changes my point of view -- without the same expectations -- and reveals another layer to me. I find that fascinating.

 

Just watched the HD end.

No Meadow. Same end.

My criticism of the very end notwithstanding, the piano starting up as Carm walked through the door gives me chills.

Sort of sad that Tony had zero recollection of that great seemingly heartfelt toast at the end of season 1, when AJ brought it up (99 percent of the Holsten's scene was phenomenal to me).

 

That is not what I saw

 

Ahh yes, the Lemming King has arrived.

 

What did you see? Can you be precise? And do you have it on tape? I'm often surprised later to find out what I saw and what I thought I saw were two different things.

I'm curious to know what you saw.

 

Seriously, what's it like subscribing to SJ when no one wants you here?

Did you crash the parties to which you weren't invited in high school too?

You're one fascinating guy. I would love to observe, via a David Chase, how you try to interact in real life with zero social skills and a complete inability to play well with others.

 

The Little Italy/Chinatown stuff was interesting, but I never got the impression the New York gangsters actually lived in Little Italy...Phil's house from a couple episodes ago (when Tony and Little Carmine visit for a last-ditch peace try) looked very suburban.

As for Agent Harris' "We're going to win" (or whatever it was, exactly), I agree with whoever it was who thought it meant the FBI was hard on the heels of Tony's crew. Assuming Harris really does want to see all the mob guys in jail -- I think he does -- he's got to be happy that New York is weakened by Phil's death. And if Carlo and the old gun charge are indeed about to bring Tony down, it's pretty nice for the government that Tony had Phil whacked just before that happened.

I just can't believe that by "we," Harris meant the Soprano family, which seems to be the only other possible explanation.