Sorority: No fat chicks, minorities

Well, if you make the argument that people shouldn't criticize what they don't understand, sounds to me like you are trying to say the critics here of the Greek system don't understand it.

I understand it fine. I just have a VERY different opinion of it than you do. I'm not blowing off your opinion as biased, so please don't blow off mine as uninformed.

 

I think that people oversimplify it, yes.

Any time I hear, "I didn't feel the need to pay for my friends," that's an oversimplification and an indication that someone doesn't understand it, yes.

It's easy to fire shots, and a lot of fraternities/sororities make it easy to fire shots at us, I admit.

When run correctly, there is a whole lot you can learn from being in a fraternal organization that goes far beyond tying one on. A lot about leadership, running an organization, reaching constructive compromises, conflict resolution, etc., etc., etc.

To sit there and just paint everyone involved with one broad brush is irksome to me.

 

That is your opinion (on the understanding part). I happen to disagree with it. Unlike you, I'm willing to accept your opinion as different than mine without trying to find some excuse to dismiss it.

 

So, as I understand it, you do think it's OK to generalize an entire segment of society based on a few examples? Because that's the opinion I'm arguing against.

 

Ok... so maybe they aren't really friends if you pay to hang out with them.

There...happy?

 

Pringle, the same can be said about playing on a Little League team. The Little Leaguers, however, are not stripped to their underwear 100 miles from home and left to find their way back.

 

Oh, I was never unhappy, per say.

I just know my experience was different than what a lot of people here are representing as the Greek experience.

It wasn't like you're paying somebody to be your friend. You're paying for shitter paper and electricity and the formal dance you throw at the end of the year. I guess it's kind of like union dues, in a way.

 

I'd like to thank sportswriter not a junky for reminding me why I always thought that guys who joined frats were colossal tools.

 

A few bad eggs ruin it for everybody.

Is every soldier in Iraq a bad guy because some white-trash hilljack raped an Iraqi girl? No, but when you represent an organization, whether it be the U.S. Army or Phi Delta Theta, it's only fair that your misdeeds reflect on that organization.

Teen-agers and early 20-somethings do stupid shit whether they're in a fraternity or not.

In fact, I did far less stupid shit at age 22 because I was involved in an organization where I had to take responsibility for and was held accountable for my actions than the friends I came home to who had never had to answer for anyone but themselves.

 

Funny, I saw insane amounts of bad behavior that would have never happened without large groups of "brothers and sisters" egging people on.

 

One of the moderators must have deleted the post where I wrote, "All fraternity members are saints."

I saw the same thing happen with the GDI hillbilly clique on my campus.

 

On a 900-person campus, just how big was that hillbilly clique?